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re: Anybody else think LSU does not deserve to be in NC consideration?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:42 pm to TheBob
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:42 pm to TheBob
quote:My point exactly. Thank you for actually having a brain and using it unlike some of the other sheep around here.
I do think it is all pointless though as of right now because we still play a team that we haven't beaten since 2007 in Ole Miss, and a very good team in Arkansas.
Let's beat ULM, Ole Miss, and Arkansas, then worry about all this shite.
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Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:44 pm to StatMaster
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So he's 3-1 . Good, but not great
So who is your better coach in those same games?
My money is on the guy who wins 75% of the time. Give me those big name coaches with better records in the same scenario over the last 6 years . Saban ? Meyers? Brown? Big game Bob ? Paterno? The Vest ? Who? I'm taking the .750 guy
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:44 pm to StatMaster
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LSU loses to Tennessee but gets off on a technicality. Not equal in my eyes.
how the hell does a technicality not count? It's ok to field a team with 13 players when we only have 11?
We would have lost that game with 4 fricking turnovers, tennessee couldn't take advantage. If anything we were unlucky to get 4 turnovers. After all we outgained them 2 to 1.
This post was edited on 11/10/10 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:45 pm to TheBob
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Sometimes it's not who you beat but how you win. Oregon crushes other teams, including the two ranked ones. LSU loses to Tennessee but gets off on a technicality. Not equal in my eyes.
Do you believe that if Oregon played LSU's schedule they would be crushing oppenents like they are. You have to remember that they are playing in a conference that is not really known for defense and LSU is playing in a conference with the best defenses. I think if you give them LSU's 4th toughest schedule instead of their 94th toughest schedule, they don't look nearly as impressive.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:46 pm to PentagonTiger
auburn will CRUSH oregon if given the chance.
What does that tell you?
What does that tell you?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:48 pm to PentagonTiger
quote:I think Oregon would be beating teams similarly to how Auburn is winning right now. I don't see them scoring 70 in the SEC week in and week out, but I could see them putting up 40-50 on Tennessee (they already did), Kentucky, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, and Arkansas and putting up 30 or so against the better defensive teams.
you believe that if Oregon played LSU's schedule they would be crushing oppenents like they are.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:49 pm to dreaux
quote:I disagree. I think it would be a close, very high scoring game. I think Oregon is one of the few teams that can match Auburn in a shoot out.
auburn will CRUSH oregon if given the chance.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:49 pm to StatMaster
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They have not looked like an NC team all year
-your opinion not fact
There is no such thing as a pre-defined NC team - any team that is in the final game is an NC caliber team. 2002 OSU comes to mind.
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but managed to beat an overhyped Alabama team
-your opinion not fact
hmm ranked #5 when they played us but they are overhyped because we beat them.
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with uncharacteristically good play from their mediocre quarterback
So if a player rises to the occasion that is a bad thing?
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LSU played their game of the year and probably won't be able to duplicate that effort again.
-your opinion not fact.
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If LSU had to play Auburn again, would you really bet on LSU?
Why not?
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If LSU loses to Ole Miss or Arkansas, the same people that are putting LSU in the NC prematurely will be calling for Miles' job.
-fricking hypothesis with nothing to do with fact.
If Oregon, AU , TCU and Boise lose their next two games and we go to the finals - will you be in line to persuade the school to extend Les' contract or will you reach for some other fault.
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Maybe it's out bipolar fanbase that's got me all riled up, but I'm just tired of the flip flopping.
-Asinine Whining
Then stop flip flopping at random and start analyzing things for yourself - then, if you change your mind every week , at least you have a reason to do so.
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LSU has a very good defense and a very average offense.
-Fact
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They'd be underdogs to Oregon, Boise St. and TCU on a neutral field.
Today, On Paper - yes
In big games - so were OU against LSU/Boise/etc...
OSU against LSU/UF/USC, Georgia against Hawaii etc...
When considering teams with equal amount of talent and preparation time - it all depends on the bounce of the ball on that particular day.
Besides I'd take Les' LSU teams/record in Bowl games over anyone else in NCAAF today.
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I just haven't seen the level of play from LSU yet this year that would warrant the kind of consideration that most LSU fans think they deserve.
Maybe they are just better than you at evaluation?
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Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:51 pm to dreaux
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auburn will CRUSH oregon if given the chance.
No they wouldn't.
Auburn's defense outside of one DT is fricking horrendous.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:51 pm to dreaux
quote:It's a technicality b/c it's not like having 13 players on the field actually affected the outcome of the play. Tenn could've had 1 player on the field and defensed LSU's bad snap. That's why it was a technicality.
how the hell does a technicality not count? It's ok to field a team with 13 players when we only have 11?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:56 pm to CalTiger
quote:No. Don't think so. And thanks for pointing out that my posts were all my opinion. You are correct :)
Oregon, AU , TCU and Boise lose their next two games and we go to the finals - will you be in line to persuade the school to extend Les' contract or will you reach for some other fault.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:56 pm to StatMaster
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It's a technicality b/c it's not like having 13 players on the field actually affected the outcome of the play. Tenn could've had 1 player on the field and defensed LSU's bad snap. That's why it was a technicality.
:rotflmao: That's the worst post I have seen today.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 11:58 pm to TexTiga
quote:Please tell me how I'm wrong?? Please inform me how Tennessee having 13 players on the field caused LSU to snap the ball by JJ and the time to run out.
That's the worst post I have seen today.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:03 am to StatMaster
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It's a technicality b/c it's not like having 13 players on the field actually affected the outcome of the play. Tenn could've had 1 player on the field and defensed LSU's bad snap. That's why it was a technicality.
The whole fricking game is filled with technicalities.
Unsportsmanlike conduct AFTER the play doesn't affect anything yet it is a penalty.
Crowding the sideline doesn't affect the play - yet it is a penalty on the team.
If a coach argues on the field after the whistle is blown , it is a penalty though it doesn't affect the play.
If a player celebrates AFTER the TD , it is a penalty.
Taunting after the play is a penalty , though it doesn't affect the play.
NONE of these are anything but technicalities and are seen in games all the time.
Keep reaching, I am sure you will find a reason as to why the current LSU team is not worthy of considerations.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:09 am to StatMaster
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No. Don't think so. And thanks for pointing out that my posts were all my opinion. You are correct :)
meh.. nothing wrong in opinions but yours were mere conjecture without any substance behind them.
I was merely elaborating each of the points to say that they were just hypotheses(and poor ones at that) and doesn't add substance to a debate.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:19 am to StatMaster
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Sometimes it's not who you beat but how you win. Oregon crushes other teams, including the two ranked ones. LSU loses to Tennessee but gets off on a technicality. Not equal in my eyes.
Last I checked, TCU crushed all the teams they played also, which included 2 ranked teams as of last weekend (Baylor is now the top among others receiving votes this weekend). TCU has also played and beaten 5 teams that have been ranked at some point this season (thus contributing to why they aren't ranked anymore).
I get that TCU wouldn't be undefeated in the SEC (but most of you think nobody will be undefeated in the SEC after Auburn plays Bama, so that's a stupid point to make), but why does everyone give Oregon a pass? They've played just as few strong teams as TCU and Boise--in fact you might argue that TCU and Boise have had more impressive bodies of work. Nobody understood why Stanford suddenly jumped from 19 to 9 in two weeks when they beat an unranked Wake Forest and an unranked Notre Dame, but now it's obvious that it was so people would be able to point to that game and the quality win for either Oregon or Stanford for national championship consideration later in the year. The PAC 10 is weak and whoever plays Oregon for the NC should be chomping at the bit, but that's assuming that Oregon doesn't lose at Oregon St to close the year, which I am not so sure won't happen.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:40 am to StatMaster
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They had the ball on the 5 yard line as time ran out.
They started on the 30 yard line
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They are heads and shoulders better than us.
Sorry, but when you play (what may end up being) your worst game of the season against an undefeated team on the road with the Heisman front runner and after 55 minutes of play the score is still tied, I find it pretty hard to call that team "head and shoulders" better than us.
Hell are we "head and shoulders" better than Florida considering they were outgained by 200+ yards at one point?
Were the vikings "head and shoulders" better than the Saints last year after outgaining them by 220 yards?
What you and so many others who love this sport fail to realize is yards are not what matter most in any game. POINTS are all that matter in the end, always have and always will. Special teams and turnovers can play just as big a role on the outcome of a game as yardage.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:06 am to geauxtigahs87
I think they deserve to be in consideration...right up until the minute that they are eliminated from winning the SEC Championship. I believed in 2003 and 2007 that a team should win its conference to have any chance of getting into the BCSCG, and I still believe it.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:23 am to StatMaster
And you don't deserve success either because you are not perfect.
Subby is a self-loathing idiot who actually wants bad things to happen to validate his depressed worldview.
You have to accept the good and the bad. We had some lucky breaks and some outstanding play. There are no error-free machines in college footbal. This year we have had enough good play and enough breaks that we are at the top of the heap. It feels good. It may not last. Enjoy it while it is here. There are about a hundred other D-I programs who wish they were in our position.
Subby is a self-loathing idiot who actually wants bad things to happen to validate his depressed worldview.
You have to accept the good and the bad. We had some lucky breaks and some outstanding play. There are no error-free machines in college footbal. This year we have had enough good play and enough breaks that we are at the top of the heap. It feels good. It may not last. Enjoy it while it is here. There are about a hundred other D-I programs who wish they were in our position.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:32 am to StatMaster
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Anybody else think LSU does not deserve to be in NC consideration?
Seriously?
Keep the opinions out of it and look at the FACTS.
We have the best resume of all the 1 loss teams, and likely will at the end of the season. This could be argued if you stronly side with a team winning there conference, like if Nebraska wins out. But I'll take the tougher schedule every time.
You could even make a strong case for being ahead of Boise and TCU and there 1 game schedules.
If Oregon or Auburn lose, we have at least a case.
Though, if Auburn still wins the SEC championship with 1 loss on there resume, there argument is definitely stronger than ours.
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