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re: Mediocre is 2 - 9 versus ranked teams over the last 2.5+ seasons
Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:49 pm to pbtiger
Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:49 pm to pbtiger
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Do you enjoy watching this team?
Football is all bout doing what you have to do to win and LSU has done that 7 out of 8 times.
So, yes...I alway enjoy watching LSU win.
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Are you proud to have LM as your coach?
No...I hate having a 58-16 coach who has the 2nd best SEC record as a coach over the last 5 years and 8 games with 3 top finishes, a top 17 finish, a current top 12 ranking, and a NC.
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Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:49 pm to TigerFan128
Teach me your way oh great Cholly Mac scholar.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:50 pm to TigerFan128
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lsu will have beaten every single sec team it has played since 2008.......so frick the negatigers.
So LSU is undefeated in SEC play since 2008. You have some garbled logic, dude.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:53 pm to tirebiter
AFTER LSU beats Alabama and Ole Miss this season they'll have beaten every SEC they've played in 09/10 at least once. 
Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:59 pm to The Boat
lsutigerfan128 is really a gump in disguise. Pay him no attention.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:01 pm to The Boat
So those claiming end of the year rankings are bogus want to count that top 10 win against an Auburn team in 2008 that ended up 5-7?
How about that loss to that top 5 Tennessee team in 2005? Oh wait, they finished the season 5-7 too.
You can bitch all you want, but rankings at the time of games are almost always built on HYPE and not performance. That is why it is an utterly stupid metric.
We beat a #14 UF team 3 weeks ago. Is that really a top 14 team in the country? Really?
You can bitch and moan all you want, but the end of the year rankings mean more than anything else because they are based on overall performance and not chicken shite hype rankings.
As of right now, Les Miles' teams since winning the NC are 2-9 against ranked teams and 1-8 against ranked teams in the regular season. With Rankings AS of this moment
UF could be ranked again, sure, but the way they are playing, I doubt it.
People have no problem blowing Les' on that top 10 win against Auburn in 2008 like I said, but that was a HORRIBLE team. So all's fair in going the other way.
In the end, LSU is more talented than that record, but minus UF and BAMA, LSU is still 2-5 against top 25 teams not ranked in the top 5. That's a 29% winning percentage for Les over the last 2+ seasons.
Let's take 2008 out of it, LSU is 1-5 against ranked teams the last 2 seasons to date. Not much more impressive.
Again, calling Les Miles' for what he truly is, a mediocre coach that can recruit, doesn't mean some of us are a Les hater. What has he done without recruits on offense heavily coached by Jimbo Fisher, Searles, and Monken? Seems like the offense has gotten worse every year since those players left with the exception of OL being slightly better this year.
People want to ignore the Saban's player argument, but those that were under him prior to Miles getting here learned his focus, dedication, and attention to details and were true leaders on the 2005-2007 teams. That is what LSU lacks now under kids that have been completely under Miles their whole careers. If that leadership training doesn't come from both older players AND the coaches, you get what LSU has now. Great talent that is misused, underdeveloped or even conter-developed.
How about that loss to that top 5 Tennessee team in 2005? Oh wait, they finished the season 5-7 too.
You can bitch all you want, but rankings at the time of games are almost always built on HYPE and not performance. That is why it is an utterly stupid metric.
We beat a #14 UF team 3 weeks ago. Is that really a top 14 team in the country? Really?
You can bitch and moan all you want, but the end of the year rankings mean more than anything else because they are based on overall performance and not chicken shite hype rankings.
As of right now, Les Miles' teams since winning the NC are 2-9 against ranked teams and 1-8 against ranked teams in the regular season. With Rankings AS of this moment
UF could be ranked again, sure, but the way they are playing, I doubt it.
People have no problem blowing Les' on that top 10 win against Auburn in 2008 like I said, but that was a HORRIBLE team. So all's fair in going the other way.
In the end, LSU is more talented than that record, but minus UF and BAMA, LSU is still 2-5 against top 25 teams not ranked in the top 5. That's a 29% winning percentage for Les over the last 2+ seasons.
Let's take 2008 out of it, LSU is 1-5 against ranked teams the last 2 seasons to date. Not much more impressive.
Again, calling Les Miles' for what he truly is, a mediocre coach that can recruit, doesn't mean some of us are a Les hater. What has he done without recruits on offense heavily coached by Jimbo Fisher, Searles, and Monken? Seems like the offense has gotten worse every year since those players left with the exception of OL being slightly better this year.
People want to ignore the Saban's player argument, but those that were under him prior to Miles getting here learned his focus, dedication, and attention to details and were true leaders on the 2005-2007 teams. That is what LSU lacks now under kids that have been completely under Miles their whole careers. If that leadership training doesn't come from both older players AND the coaches, you get what LSU has now. Great talent that is misused, underdeveloped or even conter-developed.
This post was edited on 10/28/10 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:02 pm to DoubleDeuce
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I agree he was an idiot, but Les Miles is Ryan Perrilloux away from having his likeness bronzed outside of Tiger Stadium. This team is one player away from being great.
It's not an excuse, it's just reality.
Hell yeah it's an excuse. Your comment typifies all of the Lesticles Lovers on this board. Let me put this in different terms for you. Why did Les Miles recruit RP when others wouldn't? Les Miles, a/k/a The Riverboat Gambler a/k/a Lesticles, took a lottery ticket on RP. It was an empty hand.
Another thing, I remember telling people that he should have dropped RP after the fake ID arrest. A lot of people on The Rant shrugged that off. It was a warning that RP was going to have another breakdown and when he did, it was too late to save the season. A good coach, a smart coach wouldn't put all of his eggs in one basket.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:02 pm to TigerFan128
Lay off the drink their Tigerdouche#1.
I am about your age fwiw and you act like the "kids" and "young punks" you hate on this board.
The points you make are nullified by your own douchbaggery attitude.
Oh, it's obvious you have an obsessive hate for Saban...get over it. Most of us have already.
I am about your age fwiw and you act like the "kids" and "young punks" you hate on this board.
The points you make are nullified by your own douchbaggery attitude.
Oh, it's obvious you have an obsessive hate for Saban...get over it. Most of us have already.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:04 pm to LSUMafia
Why'd you reply to me? 
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:05 pm to Shaka Zulu
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Why did Les Miles recruit RP when others wouldn't?
1. Are you seriously saying no other team was recruiting RP? Is this really what you thought up and typed out?
2. Do you understand the meltdown that would've occured if LSU had not attempted to recruit the #1 player in the country.....in their own backyard?
3. Im surrounded by idiots
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:08 pm to Choctaw
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3. Im surrounded by idiots
not that I don't agree with your other points....
but, yet, here you are.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:08 pm to LSUMafia
Why don't you provide any historical context to your numbers?
Why not other coaches five year spans?
Why not give any heed to other mitigating factors that may result in losses?
Why does everything have to be about coaching?
Coaching is THE most overrated aspect of college football in the way it is commonly perceived.
Why not other coaches five year spans?
Why not give any heed to other mitigating factors that may result in losses?
Why does everything have to be about coaching?
Coaching is THE most overrated aspect of college football in the way it is commonly perceived.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:11 pm to OBUDan
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Coaching is THE most overrated aspect of college football in the way it is commonly perceived.
Say what? Are you saying that anyone could come to LSU and put together a winning program?
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:11 pm to jdrumdog
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but, yet, here you are.
what can i say.....im easily amused.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:12 pm to OBUDan
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Coaching is THE most overrated aspect of college football in the way it is commonly perceived.
Holy shite, Dan...you've posted some good and bad material, but for chrissakes, please tell me this is a joke. Did you ever play sports at a collegiate level?
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:12 pm to The Boat
Sorry boat, I guess I clicked the last message that was up there. 
Still think it is funny these people get so pissed when someone presents facts that are more legitimate than their arguments.
Les has tons of flaws, lacks leadership, and attention to detail that a big time coach needs. Somehow, this is okay to some. I don't support a coach that continually finds ways to botch clock management so much that the one time it happens well, people are celebrating and cheering like he's proven he's over his troubles only to have it come back the next game. It's just like him blowing huge leads (e.g. UT 2005, UK 2007, UNC 2010). He has proven he will never learn because his teams make the same exact mistakes EVERY time with NO adjustments and NO discipline.
That is why I can't support him, especially with the money he's paid.
I've given up expecting him
Still think it is funny these people get so pissed when someone presents facts that are more legitimate than their arguments.
Les has tons of flaws, lacks leadership, and attention to detail that a big time coach needs. Somehow, this is okay to some. I don't support a coach that continually finds ways to botch clock management so much that the one time it happens well, people are celebrating and cheering like he's proven he's over his troubles only to have it come back the next game. It's just like him blowing huge leads (e.g. UT 2005, UK 2007, UNC 2010). He has proven he will never learn because his teams make the same exact mistakes EVERY time with NO adjustments and NO discipline.
That is why I can't support him, especially with the money he's paid.
I've given up expecting him
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:13 pm to 7thWardTiger
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But we have a coach that our players love,
Blanket statement that CANNOT be true.
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and a coach that are helping our players succeed in life
Please, if these young men didn't learn to "Be Prepared" from the Boy Scouts, they sure as shite ain't gonna learn it from a guy who can't get the proper personnel on the field after a timeout.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:13 pm to Choctaw
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what can i say.....im easily amused.
while me and you may not agree on the coach, I'll admit....
I too am easily amused lol.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:16 pm to OBUDan
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Why does everything have to be about coaching?
Coaching is THE most overrated aspect of college football in the way it is commonly perceived.
You're normally an objective poster for the most part, but that is a load of crap on your part.
Coaching IS the key. Every aspect of coaching is the key to success.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:17 pm to 7thWardTiger
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CLM is running a good, clean program. We are graduating players, and guys are coming in as boys and leaving as men. I'm damn proud of that. Winning is everything, and CLM players go on to win in life
School could rehire Les as a guidance counselor for about 80k.
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