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re: Mediocre is 2 - 9 versus ranked teams over the last 2.5+ seasons
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:32 pm to BeeFense5
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:32 pm to BeeFense5
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I'm not linking shite, I never said I was an authority on recruiting just that I follow it closely and just know you are full of crap about Saban not recruiting him. I would love to see where you got that from.
Saban probably whispered it in his ear while they were spooning and watching Sex in the City.
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Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:33 pm to OBUDan
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Talent wins about 95% of games. All the jargon that goes into the discussion after games about "adjustments" and "game plans" is mostly a bunch of bullshite that people have no idea what they are talking about say. The see a run play go for 40 yards in the first half and then another run play go for 60 yards in the 2nd half so they say... "See we don't make adjustments!"
Talent wins about 95% of games against weak competition. I will give you that, but not when it comes to good teams like those that are top 25. That's the whole point. We basically have our own slightly better Ron Zook as head coach who benefited from having a championship team in place once he got here.
If you're okay with that fine. I am not.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:33 pm to DP40
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You have to ask that, really??
It was hypothetical.
You and I and everyone else knows what they are saying and thinking.
"Les sucks cause of Ole Miss 2009. Ole Miss sucked and we should beat them and we didn't call a timeout and kick a fg and make a QB throw on a run play gameplan defense adjustments onside kick Les sucks."
That's basically the incoherent offerings of most people.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:34 pm to Choctaw
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Don't sit here and pretend that other coaches were geniouses because they didn't go after RP because it's just false and makes you look stupid.
What makes you look really stupid is the inability to comprehend what others write. Where did I say that RP wasn't recruited by other schools? There are over 110 D1 schools and you can name 4 other schools that recruited him? Congrats. You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:35 pm to Choctaw
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:35 pm to OBUDan
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OBUDan
look, you screwed up with the coaching deal. Just give it a rest.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:35 pm to OBUDan
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Talent wins about 95% of games.
Soooo LSU was not talented in '08, '09? ('10 still TBD)
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:36 pm to OBUDan
Les Miles recruiting is pretty damn good. I think very few people believe his game day coaching skills and preparation for the game is pretty damn good.
It isn't just LSU fans that question such. I support Miles and hope he is here for a long time, simply because it means LSU will be successful but I have very little faith he can pull it off.
It isn't just LSU fans that question such. I support Miles and hope he is here for a long time, simply because it means LSU will be successful but I have very little faith he can pull it off.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:36 pm to LSUMafia
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Talent wins about 95% of games against weak competition. I will give you that, but not when it comes to good teams like those that are top 25. That's the whole point. We basically have our own slightly better Ron Zook as head coach who benefited from having a championship team in place once he got here.
That's the thing though, is EVERY LOSS is on coaching to you guys. EVERY SINGLE ONE. You are convinced that we are far and away the most talented team in the history of the world, so it must be about coaching. Always. Has to be. No other reason we would have lost with the NFL rosters we're stocking.
It's illogical.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:37 pm to OBUDan
Again, I never said Les was a bad coach, but you love to claim that anyone not sucking his cock believes that.
The guy is just above mediocre as a coach in my book and a great recruiter. Leadership doesn't have to come from seniors, yet you love that excuse. Who is responsible for the shitty 2006 class? You going to blame that one on Saban too? I'll give you 2005 given the short notice, but leadership is there with a good coach. When basically an entire team lacks it, then it stems from coaching issues.
The guy is just above mediocre as a coach in my book and a great recruiter. Leadership doesn't have to come from seniors, yet you love that excuse. Who is responsible for the shitty 2006 class? You going to blame that one on Saban too? I'll give you 2005 given the short notice, but leadership is there with a good coach. When basically an entire team lacks it, then it stems from coaching issues.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:39 pm to OBUDan
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That's the thing though, is EVERY LOSS is on coaching to you guys. EVERY SINGLE ONE. You are convinced that we are far and away the most talented team in the history of the world, so it must be about coaching. Always. Has to be. No other reason we would have lost with the NFL rosters we're stocking.
I suggest you rehash threads following Bama and UF last season. You are making stuff up at this point.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:39 pm to Shaka Zulu
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What makes you look really stupid is the inability to comprehend what others write. Where did I say that RP wasn't recruited by other schools?
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Why did Les Miles recruit RP when others wouldn't?
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:40 pm to OBUDan
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That's the thing though, is EVERY LOSS is on coaching to you guys. EVERY SINGLE ONE. You are convinced that we are far and away the most talented team in the history of the world, so it must be about coaching. Always. Has to be. No other reason we would have lost with the NFL rosters we're stocking.
It's illogical.
I think you're blowing some of the other extreme opinions even further out of proportion.
Coaching is what separates good college football teams from really good football teams to great football teams. They're reflections of the attitude and personality of the person that exudes the most influence over them, which is usually the man that runs the show (the head coach).
If you really don't understand this, then you can't really understand sports in general at a collegiate level.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:40 pm to BeeFense5
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I'm not linking shite,
Exposed.
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I never said I was an authority on recruiting just that I follow it closely
True.
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you are full of crap about Saban not recruiting him. I would love to see where you got that from.
Reading comprehension, bro, reading comprehension. Re-read my posts and tell me where I ever stated that Saban did not recruit RP. BTW, it has been a subject of debate one way or the other, but I am from the school that thinks Saban recruited him as a goodwill and face saving gesture. But, yeah, Saban did recruit him and I never said otherwise and before you ask, there ain't no link to support either view of Saban's stance on the RP recruitment.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:41 pm to jdrumdog
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I think you're blowing some of the other extreme opinions even further out of proportion.
He is just flat out making shite up.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:42 pm to OBUDan
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That's the thing though, is EVERY LOSS is on coaching to you guys. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
Not true at all. Where did I say every loss was purely on coaching?
I can definitely point to mistakes by the coaches that helped lead to the losses, but I am sure you'll try to counter that.
Even if you take out 2008, our losses to date are heavily due to coaching and lack of adjustments, period.
Les played the UF 2009 game entirely to not get blown out. That is pathetic. If you watched that game that is exactly what the game plan showed.
Starting Jefferson over and over again despite the fact he played extremely poorly showed poor judgment by Les. It resulted in LSU basically being behind from the get go against Auburn.
Les has made enough mistakes and proven that he won't change/fix it for more than a week most of the time. That is the sign of a very limited coach. He has his talents that he brings to the table, but he's not worth $3.75 Million.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He is just flat out making shite up.
As much crap is spewed on the rant, it wouldn't shock me to know that there's a link somewhere that proves that someone somewhere has said that before.
But that coaching comment is just utterly ridiculous and completely over the top. There's a reason why coaching is "perceived" to be such a "big deal".
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He is just flat out making shite up.
He's also acting like consistently recurring problems with the team have nothing to do with coaching.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:45 pm to LSUMafia
Yeah. Well, when people are dead set on defending a position regardless of facts, they will say some crazy stuff.
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:46 pm to Choctaw
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Choctaw
You whiffed at reading comprehension again. If I had said "nobody" or "no one" then you might be right; but, I didn't say that and now you look really stupid. You see, "others" is not an absolute, whereas "nobody" or "no one" is. BTW, Les Miles and Mack Brown (and maybe you, too, if you were a college coach) do have a lot in common.
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