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Les Miles' Contract
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:29 pm
Okay, there have been numerous threads on the topic, so lets see if we can hammer out some details, shall we?
Unless there is an underground contract, this is the current contract for Les Miles:
CONTRACT
Notice the latest amendment date: March, 2008.
Some have said that Sean O'Keefe extended it by two years before he left the university. Well, Sean O'Keefe's last day as Chancellor of LSU was February 1, 2008. Nearly three months before the signing of this amended contract.
If you go to the third page of the contract, it says that this is an amendment to the last contract signed December 2007. There is NO mention of a contract extension that Sean O'Keefe supposedly issued to Miles before his departure.
And, honestly, the most important parts of this whole debate can be found in the memo from Lombardi to Miles on March 12, 2008.
The term of the latest contract is from January 1, 2008 to December 21, 2012. The confusion about the extension to 2014 may be due to a section that states:
The Buyout:
People are stuck on the $18.75 million buyout. Okay, lets break that down. In March of 2008, at $3.75 million per season, the 18.75 makes sense:
2008 - 3.75
2009 - 3.75
2010 - 3.75
2011 - 3.75
2012 - 3.75
Total - 18.75
This not a lifetime buyout amount - it is the remaining years left on the contract. Therefore, in March of 2008, Miles' buyout was $18.75 million. But now, if Miles were to be let go without cause at the end of this season, then the buyout should be $7.5 million.
This article from WAFB announcing the amendment in 2007 reports as much:
WAFB Article
Yes, it states $15 million, but that was amended to the $18.75 in March as previously discussed.
The Rollover:
This is fairly simple. Looking at the memo from March 12, 2008, you will clearly see that there is no automatic rollover for an 8 win season. And, the only thing mentioned about the 8 games, is that could be the basis for an extension - certainly not a definitive reason for one.
It also states that the Chancellor has the option to grant, or not grant a one year extension after every season. If the Chancellor chooses to NOT grant the extension, then that must also be approved by the President.
It has been reported a couple of times that Miles was not given an extension after both the 2008 and 2009 seasons.
Summary:
I'm not claiming that this is gospel - these are merely my thoughts on the subject based on the little amount of research that I did. But I do think that it shows that the LSU administration was not acting illogically when they entered into the agreement with Miles in 2008.
It shows that Les Miles' contract ends in 2012, not 2014.
And it shows that Miles' buyout is not $18.75 million, but $7.5 million.
ETA:
From Jim Kleinpeter on Monday, August 2, 2010:
quote:
His six-year rollover contract, which pays him $3.75 million per season, was not rolled over the past two years.
LINK
So, from my thread, initial contract signed in 2006, with the same rollover clause, that has a term of 2006 - 2010.
Les gets a rollover for 2006 and 2007, which brings the term to 2012.
Les does NOT get 2008 and 2009 rolled over.
Therefore, 2012, is still the term end date.
Unless there is an underground contract, this is the current contract for Les Miles:
CONTRACT
Notice the latest amendment date: March, 2008.
Some have said that Sean O'Keefe extended it by two years before he left the university. Well, Sean O'Keefe's last day as Chancellor of LSU was February 1, 2008. Nearly three months before the signing of this amended contract.
If you go to the third page of the contract, it says that this is an amendment to the last contract signed December 2007. There is NO mention of a contract extension that Sean O'Keefe supposedly issued to Miles before his departure.
And, honestly, the most important parts of this whole debate can be found in the memo from Lombardi to Miles on March 12, 2008.
The term of the latest contract is from January 1, 2008 to December 21, 2012. The confusion about the extension to 2014 may be due to a section that states:
quote:
The Chancellor is authorized to extend the term of this agreement at his discretion for up to two years to December 31, 2014...
The Buyout:
People are stuck on the $18.75 million buyout. Okay, lets break that down. In March of 2008, at $3.75 million per season, the 18.75 makes sense:
2008 - 3.75
2009 - 3.75
2010 - 3.75
2011 - 3.75
2012 - 3.75
Total - 18.75
This not a lifetime buyout amount - it is the remaining years left on the contract. Therefore, in March of 2008, Miles' buyout was $18.75 million. But now, if Miles were to be let go without cause at the end of this season, then the buyout should be $7.5 million.
This article from WAFB announcing the amendment in 2007 reports as much:
quote:
Miles' buyout also stretches to $15 million if he's terminated without cause, but that amount decreases every year.
WAFB Article
Yes, it states $15 million, but that was amended to the $18.75 in March as previously discussed.
The Rollover:
This is fairly simple. Looking at the memo from March 12, 2008, you will clearly see that there is no automatic rollover for an 8 win season. And, the only thing mentioned about the 8 games, is that could be the basis for an extension - certainly not a definitive reason for one.
It also states that the Chancellor has the option to grant, or not grant a one year extension after every season. If the Chancellor chooses to NOT grant the extension, then that must also be approved by the President.
It has been reported a couple of times that Miles was not given an extension after both the 2008 and 2009 seasons.
Summary:
I'm not claiming that this is gospel - these are merely my thoughts on the subject based on the little amount of research that I did. But I do think that it shows that the LSU administration was not acting illogically when they entered into the agreement with Miles in 2008.
It shows that Les Miles' contract ends in 2012, not 2014.
And it shows that Miles' buyout is not $18.75 million, but $7.5 million.
ETA:
From Jim Kleinpeter on Monday, August 2, 2010:
quote:
His six-year rollover contract, which pays him $3.75 million per season, was not rolled over the past two years.
LINK
So, from my thread, initial contract signed in 2006, with the same rollover clause, that has a term of 2006 - 2010.
Les gets a rollover for 2006 and 2007, which brings the term to 2012.
Les does NOT get 2008 and 2009 rolled over.
Therefore, 2012, is still the term end date.
This post was edited on 10/8/10 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:33 pm to RummelTiger
Holy crap! You must really want Miles gone to have written all that up. The only way he possibly loses his job in 2010 is to go 6-6 or 5-7. He has one scapegoat left in Crowton to play. He's here through 2011 for sure.
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:36 pm to Jaydeaux
So, next year, after 4 years of getting rolled by Bama, LSU nuts up and buys Miles out for 3.75...
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:38 pm to TriumphTiger
quote:
Holy crap! You must really want Miles gone to have written all that up.
or he just wants all the bullshite contract threads to stop becuase no one knows what the hell they're talking about.
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:39 pm to TriumphTiger
quote:
Holy crap! You must really want Miles gone to have written all that up.
Actually, no.
I simply wanted to try to find out what the actual truth about his status was, and in an impartial way...
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:42 pm to Jaydeaux
I think you're spot on Triumph Tiger...BTW, when are we getting those LSU-Georgia State Plates??
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:44 pm to Stingray
they need to lock clm i call for a extension say till 2020 with a small raise say an even 4 mill per year. 
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:47 pm to TriumphTiger
quote:
RummelTiger
quote:
He has one scapegoat left in Crowton to play.
Miles lost that card when he didn't use it last season.
Nine wins he is safe.
Seven or less he is in trouble.
Eight, things get interesting.
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:48 pm to RummelTiger
I wonder if Jacques Doucet has considered asking for LSU to disclose the buyout amount using the Freedom of Information Act?
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:49 pm to RummelTiger
Sounds good to me, someone cut him a check and get his arse out of here.
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:50 pm to Cash
quote:LSU will not fire him as long as he gets us to a bowl.
Seven or less he is in trouble.
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:52 pm to RummelTiger
I agree with your analysis until someone can show something definitive otherwise. I have never seen any proof of an extension to 2014. That would mean that they would have extended it again since 2007 whence it became 2012. I can't believe they extended it during or after 2008's Malleveto. And certainly they didn't extend it after last year's Ole Miss fubar. It will take a lot to extend it after this year, namely winning the fans and the press' confidence back which is a tall order at this point.
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:52 pm to LSURussian
quote:
LSU will not fire him as long as he gets us to a New Years Day bowl.
IMO...
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:53 pm to RummelTiger
i thought we already knew all of this?
people really thought that the buyout wouldnt lower after each year and that it was a set price no matter what?
people really thought that the buyout wouldnt lower after each year and that it was a set price no matter what?
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:56 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Seven or less he is in trouble.
LSU will not fire him as long as he gets us to a bowl.
Six wins gets us to a bowl. Have your expectations fallen that low?
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:58 pm to TigerTailsSoup
quote:
I have never seen any proof of an extension to 2014.
There would be an amendment on file somewhere. As retarded as the Rant can be it would have sniffed this document out a long time ago if it existed.
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