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Offensive line still a big part of the problem

Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:52 am
Posted by Wisdom
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:52 am
With all the Ranting about the struggles at quarterback, it seems to me that there is still a big gap between the protection the QB is getting and what he should be getting. I know he doesn't pull the trigger fast enough at times, and seems to be more than a little indecisive, but he never seems to be able to throw without being under significant pressure. Yes, the offensive line is improved over last year, but that isn't a very high standard. Perhaps Miles' reluctance to shift quarterbacks is attributable in part to his, and his staff's, belief that the problem lies less with the QB than with the blocking.
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Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:53 am to
Yeah, I can see it. We need to give the qb at least 10 seconds to peruse the field instead of the 3-5 he is getting now.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:53 am to
So you think they are good at run blocking and poor at pass protection ?
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52682 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:54 am to
Why bother?
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2251 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:55 am to
10 seconds are u kidding me? most qbs only need 4 and thats what there giving him. i think there doing fine JJ is just making them look bad this year.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
18806 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:55 am to
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Offensive line still a big part of the problem

Wow.....Seriously, how much time do you think Jefferson needs?
Posted by AliveAtTheHiveTiger
LSU Town, USA
Member since Mar 2008
707 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:55 am to
IMO, the line has done a more than sufficient job. As a former OL, I watch the line every play, and from what I've seen, our unit as a whole has done pretty well. You can't tell me that it's the line's fault this guy hasn't thrown for over 100 FREAKIN yards in the last three games. There are teams out there with much worse lines who have quarterbacks who are throwing over 200 a game.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20934 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:56 am to
The OL is fine. They do get outnumbered on blitzes at times because JJ is struggling with getting the ball out quickly.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2251 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:57 am to
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There are teams out there with much worse lines who have quarterbacks who are throwing over 200 a game.

Cincy is a example
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:58 am to
quote:

With all the Ranting about the struggles at quarterback, it seems to me that there is still a big gap between the protection the QB is getting and what he should be getting. I know he doesn't pull the trigger fast enough at times, and seems to be more than a little indecisive, but he never seems to be able to throw without being under significant pressure. Yes, the offensive line is improved over last year, but that isn't a very high standard. Perhaps Miles' reluctance to shift quarterbacks is attributable in part to his, and his staff's, belief that the problem lies less with the QB than with the blocking.


O-line is NOT the fricking problem this year. They're giving Jefferson all the time in the world.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:58 am to
quote:

JJ is struggling with getting the ball out quickly.


this

and he takes way too long to go through his reads, its like slow motion at times.
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:58 am to
It is actually quite amazing we are able to run as well as we have with the horrible QB we have.

Hats off to the oline.
Posted by Wisdom
Member since Jan 2010
114 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:59 am to


quote:

We need to give the qb at least 10 seconds to peruse the field instead of the 3-5 he is getting now.


If you think he's getting 3 or 4 seconds, maybe you need a new stopwatch. I know he has happy feet, but isn't it possible that some of that is because he knows that his protection isn't great? I'm not saying he's a great, or even very good, QB, I'm just suggesting that maybe the QB isn't the whole problem. Smartass.


So you think they are good at run blocking and poor at pass protection ?
I think they are better at run blocking. Whether I'd call them good is another question. I'm not sure I see a terribly effective running game. I know Ridley bailed us out with some long third down carries last Saturday, and the blocking was a big part of those plays. but over the course of the game, I'm not convinced that the run blocking was really good. In any event, the pass blocking isn't as good. By far.
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:01 am to
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If you think he's getting 3 or 4 seconds, maybe you need a new stopwatch. I know he has happy feet, but isn't it possible that some of that is because he knows that his protection isn't great? I'm not saying he's a great, or even very good, QB, I'm just suggesting that maybe the QB isn't the whole problem. Smartass.


If you think he's not you need to watch the games sober or catch them when they replay on CSTV
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:02 am to
quote:

So you think they are good at run blocking and poor at pass protection ?
Yes. The o-line is bette at run blocking than pass protection.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20934 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:03 am to
Your run blocking will tend to struggle more the less effective your passing game is. Is our OL the best? No, but they are giving JJ time. He needs to get the ball out faster.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:03 am to
quote:

If you think he's getting 3 or 4 seconds, maybe you need a new stopwatch. I know he has happy feet, but isn't it possible that some of that is because he knows that his protection isn't great? I'm not saying he's a great, or even very good, QB, I'm just suggesting that maybe the QB isn't the whole problem. Smartass.


Come on man. Last year we could get on the o-line from day one. That's not the case this year. You have to open your eyes to see that Jefferson is too slow in his decision making.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:04 am to
We are like 35th in the country in sacks given up.. Thats not bad at all. Hell most of those come from our QB not getting rid of the ball too.

The line is more than fine this year. The QB needs to make a decision. Against WVU he has open receivers all over the place but wouldnt throw it.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:05 am to
When it takes 5 to 6 seconds to set up a screen play, there is a serious problem with execution. When your QB holds the ball 4 to 5 seconds, standing in the pocket and not moving his feet or rolling out...

Yes, the OL is not perfect, but I think it's good enough to allow for a QB to stand 3 seconds and fire a pass most times. They can certainly block for 2 seconds and allow a quick slant or pass to the TE, which we NEVER see.
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:06 am to
Whenever Mr. Jefferson takes the field they should pipe in Juvenile's "Slow Motion."
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