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Offensive line still a big part of the problem
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:52 am
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:52 am
With all the Ranting about the struggles at quarterback, it seems to me that there is still a big gap between the protection the QB is getting and what he should be getting. I know he doesn't pull the trigger fast enough at times, and seems to be more than a little indecisive, but he never seems to be able to throw without being under significant pressure. Yes, the offensive line is improved over last year, but that isn't a very high standard. Perhaps Miles' reluctance to shift quarterbacks is attributable in part to his, and his staff's, belief that the problem lies less with the QB than with the blocking.
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 8:53 am
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:53 am to Wisdom
Yeah, I can see it. We need to give the qb at least 10 seconds to peruse the field instead of the 3-5 he is getting now.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:53 am to Wisdom
So you think they are good at run blocking and poor at pass protection ?
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:55 am to mt1
10 seconds are u kidding me? most qbs only need 4 and thats what there giving him. i think there doing fine JJ is just making them look bad this year.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:55 am to Wisdom
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Offensive line still a big part of the problem
Wow.....Seriously, how much time do you think Jefferson needs?
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:55 am to Wisdom
IMO, the line has done a more than sufficient job. As a former OL, I watch the line every play, and from what I've seen, our unit as a whole has done pretty well. You can't tell me that it's the line's fault this guy hasn't thrown for over 100 FREAKIN yards in the last three games. There are teams out there with much worse lines who have quarterbacks who are throwing over 200 a game.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:56 am to Wisdom
The OL is fine. They do get outnumbered on blitzes at times because JJ is struggling with getting the ball out quickly.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:57 am to AliveAtTheHiveTiger
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There are teams out there with much worse lines who have quarterbacks who are throwing over 200 a game.
Cincy is a example
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:58 am to Wisdom
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With all the Ranting about the struggles at quarterback, it seems to me that there is still a big gap between the protection the QB is getting and what he should be getting. I know he doesn't pull the trigger fast enough at times, and seems to be more than a little indecisive, but he never seems to be able to throw without being under significant pressure. Yes, the offensive line is improved over last year, but that isn't a very high standard. Perhaps Miles' reluctance to shift quarterbacks is attributable in part to his, and his staff's, belief that the problem lies less with the QB than with the blocking.
O-line is NOT the fricking problem this year. They're giving Jefferson all the time in the world.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:58 am to etm512
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JJ is struggling with getting the ball out quickly.
this
and he takes way too long to go through his reads, its like slow motion at times.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:58 am to tiger25
It is actually quite amazing we are able to run as well as we have with the horrible QB we have.
Hats off to the oline.
Hats off to the oline.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:59 am to mt1
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We need to give the qb at least 10 seconds to peruse the field instead of the 3-5 he is getting now.
If you think he's getting 3 or 4 seconds, maybe you need a new stopwatch. I know he has happy feet, but isn't it possible that some of that is because he knows that his protection isn't great? I'm not saying he's a great, or even very good, QB, I'm just suggesting that maybe the QB isn't the whole problem. Smartass.
So you think they are good at run blocking and poor at pass protection ?
I think they are better at run blocking. Whether I'd call them good is another question. I'm not sure I see a terribly effective running game. I know Ridley bailed us out with some long third down carries last Saturday, and the blocking was a big part of those plays. but over the course of the game, I'm not convinced that the run blocking was really good. In any event, the pass blocking isn't as good. By far.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:01 am to Wisdom
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If you think he's getting 3 or 4 seconds, maybe you need a new stopwatch. I know he has happy feet, but isn't it possible that some of that is because he knows that his protection isn't great? I'm not saying he's a great, or even very good, QB, I'm just suggesting that maybe the QB isn't the whole problem. Smartass.
If you think he's not you need to watch the games sober or catch them when they replay on CSTV
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:02 am to ccomeaux
quote:Yes. The o-line is bette at run blocking than pass protection.
So you think they are good at run blocking and poor at pass protection ?
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:03 am to Wisdom
Your run blocking will tend to struggle more the less effective your passing game is. Is our OL the best? No, but they are giving JJ time. He needs to get the ball out faster.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:03 am to Wisdom
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If you think he's getting 3 or 4 seconds, maybe you need a new stopwatch. I know he has happy feet, but isn't it possible that some of that is because he knows that his protection isn't great? I'm not saying he's a great, or even very good, QB, I'm just suggesting that maybe the QB isn't the whole problem. Smartass.
Come on man. Last year we could get on the o-line from day one. That's not the case this year. You have to open your eyes to see that Jefferson is too slow in his decision making.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:04 am to Wisdom
We are like 35th in the country in sacks given up.. Thats not bad at all. Hell most of those come from our QB not getting rid of the ball too.
The line is more than fine this year. The QB needs to make a decision. Against WVU he has open receivers all over the place but wouldnt throw it.
The line is more than fine this year. The QB needs to make a decision. Against WVU he has open receivers all over the place but wouldnt throw it.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:05 am to Wisdom
When it takes 5 to 6 seconds to set up a screen play, there is a serious problem with execution. When your QB holds the ball 4 to 5 seconds, standing in the pocket and not moving his feet or rolling out...
Yes, the OL is not perfect, but I think it's good enough to allow for a QB to stand 3 seconds and fire a pass most times. They can certainly block for 2 seconds and allow a quick slant or pass to the TE, which we NEVER see.
Yes, the OL is not perfect, but I think it's good enough to allow for a QB to stand 3 seconds and fire a pass most times. They can certainly block for 2 seconds and allow a quick slant or pass to the TE, which we NEVER see.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 9:06 am to MightyYat
Whenever Mr. Jefferson takes the field they should pipe in Juvenile's "Slow Motion."
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