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Toss to RIdley when he fumbled

Posted on 9/5/10 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
6204 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 10:55 pm
Why the hell are we running a toss in the 4th quarter on 3rd?? Not a coach in America with any sense would do that. Even if Crowton called the play, Miles should have enough sense to say "Wait NO! Put the ball in his stomach! Do not toss it! Hand it off. We don't want to take that risk."

But no. We run a downhill toss. That is terrible coaching.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61885 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Why the hell are we running a toss in the 4th quarter on 3rd?? Not a coach in America with any sense would do that. Even if Crowton called the play, Miles should have enough sense to say "Wait NO! Put the ball in his stomach! Do not toss it! Hand it off. We don't want to take that risk."

But no. We run a downhill toss. That is terrible coaching.


meh

Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 10:57 pm to
I agree. Just keep it simple.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23322 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 10:57 pm to
you mean the play when he ran for 8 yards, and got the first down? you're blaming the QB/RB exchange for a fumble that happened 8 yards away from the LOS?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 10:59 pm to
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But no. We run a downhill toss. That is terrible coaching.

Are you trying to say he never had possession?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61885 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:00 pm to
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Not a coach in America with any sense would do that.


Sean Payton once ran a reverse with a pitch in basically the same situation except it was around midfield.

This post was edited on 9/5/10 at 11:01 pm
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:01 pm to
Hanagriff was going off on this last night too, and I just don't get it. The ball was in Ridley's hands for a good 2-3 secs before he fumbled it, and he had ample time to put it away. The toss didn't affect shite.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61885 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

The toss didn't affect shite.


Correct.
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

you mean the play when he ran for 8 yards, and got the first down? you're blaming the QB/RB exchange for a fumble that happened 8 yards away from the LOS?



Maybe Ridley kept thinking about this bad exchange as he was running (in those few seconds) and then at the end of the run (at the time of fumbling) it hit him that it was gross incompetence during the QB/RB exchange ->led him to start crying which in turn made him loosen the grip on the ball
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:02 pm to
I think it was a double reverse actually. I thought Payton was such an idiot for doing that. The announcers were pretty baffled as well. There is no sense in running risky plays when you are just trying to run out the clock. No reverses, options, risky passes, etc.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288164 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:02 pm to
thats a power running play.

he got the first down on it

he just fumbled
Posted by LSUGradATL
Warsawa/ATL
Member since Jul 2007
10497 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:04 pm to
Watch the way the elite runners handle the ball, they hold it high and tight and will put two arms around the ball in traffic. He will get more touches in practice this week and get the coaching needed to drive technique home.

I like how big and explosive Ridley looks. He is blazing past the linebackers at about the same size.
Posted by northLAgoomba
Grand Cane, LA
Member since Nov 2009
3979 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:06 pm to
I agree. Regardless of when he fumbled the ball, it is still more risky to toss it rather than hand it off.
Posted by chinesebandit76
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
569 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:08 pm to
I don't think the toss caused the fumble, but why would you call a toss in that spot. Bad coaching.
Posted by Diamondback Tiger
AZ
Member since Aug 2010
32 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:10 pm to
I noticed that while watching the replay tonight.

It was a stupid call. Any toss has a much higher chance of a fumble than sticking the ball in his gut.

Obviously the exchange was ok on the play but why run a riskier type play when you dont have to.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
20981 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:16 pm to
The play was a first down and game over play. The toss had nothing to do with the fumble, it worked.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58446 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:19 pm to
we ran this play mutiple times during the game, the only reason you're bitching is because ridley fumbled
Posted by VickAteMyDog
West Monroe
Member since Aug 2009
85 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

Hanagriff was going off on this last night too, and I just don't get it. The ball was in Ridley's hands for a good 2-3 secs before he fumbled it, and he had ample time to put it away. The toss didn't affect shite.


You are missing the point. He's not blaming the fumble on the toss. He is simply questioning why you would call for a risky toss play when you're trying to hold onto the ball and run out the clock. A simple handoff would have been a much safer and wiser call. To the OP, I was wondering the same thing.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:31 pm to
quote:


You are missing the point. He's not blaming the fumble on the toss. He is simply questioning why you would call for a risky toss play when you're trying to hold onto the ball and run out the clock. A simple handoff would have been a much safer and wiser call. To the OP, I was wondering the same thing.



I don't think a toss is a risky call at all. That's basic football. Besides, if it does get muffed then at least he has room to fall on it without a linemen beating him to it.. because of the added depth.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 9/5/10 at 11:33 pm to
it was a better play then all the runs out of the shotgun we did. I wish we had run it more last night. Is anyone else tired of the QB reads out of shotgun?

Believe me, I could find a lot worse from last night then that playcall.
This post was edited on 9/5/10 at 11:34 pm
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