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Christopher Nolan: The Cycle of Success, Appeal and Backlash
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:36 am
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:36 am
So this was posted in a thread this morning:
And I have seen comments like this posted in:
1) The Top 100 Thread Because the Top 4 movies include 3 Nolan films.
2) The Inception Thread - To the likes of "The movie is too confusing, but Nolan lovers love it anyway" - Not a direct quote
3) The 2000s Bracket - See above, among other quotes.
It seems, as Baloo said in the thread, the Nolan backlash is picking up steam. That he is so successful now that people dislike him, or instantly write off his fans or anything he creates.
#1 - I don't get his argument and never have. Now, if Nolan were changing his film making style to something more popular (rather than creating his own mark) then I might agree. I hate when this argument is used, but do find it accurate in other cases.
I'll say that, in music, it happens more than film, but most accusations of it are unwarranted. But two that come to mind immediately are Metallica and Incubus. Some may disagree, but in my estimation, they sold out. Sure it became faddish to dislike them, but I think the dislike was warranted.
#2 - What do people who like Nolan films only because they are Nolan films have to gain?
#3 - Can the current Nolan-haters really disagree that he doesn't make stellar films. On what grounds? Saying that the acting in the Illusionist is better than the Prestige is somewhat laughable. I like Rufus Sewell as much as the next guy, but great actor he is not.
So let's hash it out, get it on the table...
Edit: Pulled another quote from the Top 100 Thread:
And even though the person admits to liking Nolan, I'd still like to know how you "get off his nuts" if all Nolan does is make good film? Should we dislike his films simply because we like them too much?
quote:
I have a feeling the only reason most people cream over The Prestige is because it was directed by Nolan.
And I have seen comments like this posted in:
1) The Top 100 Thread Because the Top 4 movies include 3 Nolan films.
2) The Inception Thread - To the likes of "The movie is too confusing, but Nolan lovers love it anyway" - Not a direct quote
3) The 2000s Bracket - See above, among other quotes.
It seems, as Baloo said in the thread, the Nolan backlash is picking up steam. That he is so successful now that people dislike him, or instantly write off his fans or anything he creates.
#1 - I don't get his argument and never have. Now, if Nolan were changing his film making style to something more popular (rather than creating his own mark) then I might agree. I hate when this argument is used, but do find it accurate in other cases.
I'll say that, in music, it happens more than film, but most accusations of it are unwarranted. But two that come to mind immediately are Metallica and Incubus. Some may disagree, but in my estimation, they sold out. Sure it became faddish to dislike them, but I think the dislike was warranted.
#2 - What do people who like Nolan films only because they are Nolan films have to gain?
#3 - Can the current Nolan-haters really disagree that he doesn't make stellar films. On what grounds? Saying that the acting in the Illusionist is better than the Prestige is somewhat laughable. I like Rufus Sewell as much as the next guy, but great actor he is not.
So let's hash it out, get it on the table...
Edit: Pulled another quote from the Top 100 Thread:
quote:
also, Nolan is my second favorite director but 3 selections in the top ten is overkill. Get off his nuts for christ sake!
And even though the person admits to liking Nolan, I'd still like to know how you "get off his nuts" if all Nolan does is make good film? Should we dislike his films simply because we like them too much?
This post was edited on 8/9/10 at 11:00 am
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Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:38 am to Freauxzen
Nolan's films are great.
Anyone who says otherwise is not worthy of breathing the same air.
Anyone who says otherwise is not worthy of breathing the same air.
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:41 am to Freauxzen
I like Nolan. A lot. But his style is minimalistic, almost cold in its presentation. And while I enjoy that no frills matter-of-factness, I could see how some people might be put off by it. But to hate on him for all of his success doesn't make sense. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Unless those players are George Lucas or Shia Lebouef. Then I will allow it. 
This post was edited on 8/9/10 at 10:42 am
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:41 am to Freauxzen
Nolan is great but here it can be a little much...
Memento number 1?? I mean its good..
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The Top 100 Thread Because the Top 4 movies include 3 Nolan films.
Memento number 1?? I mean its good..
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:42 am to Freauxzen
Wow, we were both thinking the same thing and starting two different types of threads to address that same comment.
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:44 am to Freauxzen
I don't think he made 5 of the 10 best films of the last decade, but he is certainly an amazing director and I love all of his work. He is able to make intellectually stimulating films and never caters to the lowest common denominator, which is more than I can say for most directors.
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:45 am to Freauxzen
I'll say what I said earlier about him: Nolan isn't perfect, but right now, I think he is clearly one of the best in the business. He is everything M. Night Shyamalan was SUPPOSED to be.
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:45 am to Freauxzen
Nolan is great but 2-3 threads a day telling everyone how great he is is a little annoying.
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:45 am to Freauxzen
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But two that come to mind immediately are Metallica and Incubus. Some may disagree, but in my estimation, they sold out. Sure it became faddish to dislike them, but I think the dislike was warranted.
Posted on 8/9/10 at 10:54 am to Freauxzen
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I simply stated, that I HAVE A FEELING people cream over The Prestige is because it's directed by Nolan.
quote:
#2 - What do people who like Nolan films only because they are Nolan films have to gain?
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