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BOP listing 12 degrees?
Posted on 6/24/10 at 11:11 am
Posted on 6/24/10 at 11:11 am
Can someone who is not forcing a political agenda or someone without foil on their head please explain the significance of this? You O&G guys please weigh in...
Posted on 6/24/10 at 11:30 am to jennBN
This post was edited on 6/24/10 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/24/10 at 11:47 am to jennBN
That's the thing they are worried about. The well pressure is causing the well to cave in. No way to stop this thing now.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 11:48 am to Tchefuncte Tiger

Posted on 6/24/10 at 11:55 am to jennBN
The communication among the sectors of the well are not holding. It means that the hole is getting bigger and eventually will cave in. The releif well prob will not work because the "hole" will become a cavern. No way to pump enough mud down a small diameter hole to bottom plug the well. In short, listing is a bad, bad thing. The first sign that the releif well won't work.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 12:00 pm to Debaser
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The first sign that the releif well won't work.
I am worried about that. No one is saying much about it right now. If the well caves, and relief wells don't work, is there anyway to stop the oil? I feel like a roach on my back...
Posted on 6/24/10 at 1:01 pm to jennBN
I believe that the BOP was pulled over about 10 degrees by the weight of the rig when it went down. It's been that way since the beginning.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 1:12 pm to jennBN
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BOP listing 12 degrees?
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Can someone who is not forcing a political agenda or someone without foil on their head please explain the significance of this?
Oh shite
Posted on 6/24/10 at 1:13 pm to GM4UA
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I believe that the BOP was pulled over about 10 degrees by the weight of the rig when it went down. It's been that way since the beginning.
I hope this is true.
And TBH, I think it is more likely this.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 2:35 pm to Volvagia
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The well pressure is causing the well to cave in. No way to stop this thing now.
sigh....
Posted on 6/24/10 at 2:53 pm to Debaser
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The communication among the sectors of the well are not holding. It means that the hole is getting bigger and eventually will cave in. The releif well prob will not work because the "hole" will become a cavern. No way to pump enough mud down a small diameter hole to bottom plug the well. In short, listing is a bad, bad thing. The first sign that the releif well won't work.

You're going on the List as well.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 3:05 pm to jennBN
What the former CEO of Shell Oil said was that the fear is that the listing of the BOP could be indicating that the well pipe in the earth may be deteriorating and that if this happens to the area where they want to tap in with the relief wells, doing so would be impossible and the worse case scenario is that the well could be spewing into the GOM for a decade or more. These transcripts reveal alot, but it is tedious to go through them... LINK
This post was edited on 6/24/10 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 6/24/10 at 3:30 pm to Neaux Fuse
No expert here but this is my understanding.
The relief wells will intersect a little above the reservoir.
The well bore probably has a leak somewhere.
It is probably not near the bottom or the top kill would have worked.
The well holds up the BOP since the gulf floor is very muddy and will not hold up much of anything.
So the first part of the seafloor, from the seafloor down to about a few hundred feets (1000???)holds the well casing which then supports the BOP.
If the oil is pressuring out at the rupture it is possible that it could erode the earth around the bore hole.
If the upper part of the borehole has the geology eroded away the BOP will pull it over and the well will likely be shear beneath the gulf floor.
The well will then spew oil until the bottom kill can stop it.
The relief wells will intersect a little above the reservoir.
The well bore probably has a leak somewhere.
It is probably not near the bottom or the top kill would have worked.
The well holds up the BOP since the gulf floor is very muddy and will not hold up much of anything.
So the first part of the seafloor, from the seafloor down to about a few hundred feets (1000???)holds the well casing which then supports the BOP.
If the oil is pressuring out at the rupture it is possible that it could erode the earth around the bore hole.
If the upper part of the borehole has the geology eroded away the BOP will pull it over and the well will likely be shear beneath the gulf floor.
The well will then spew oil until the bottom kill can stop it.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 4:11 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
Had an uncle who is working in the area tell me that it could take 5-7 years for the reservoir of oil to bleed out if the cave-in happened. He said you don't even want to know the effects that would have in the gulf region.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 4:21 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Ummm... I do want to know.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 5:08 pm to Volvagia
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I hope this is true.
Weeks ago, when they showed one of the ROVs taking inclinometer readings, the cameras clearly showed the BOP inclined in the direction of the bent riser. I'd imagine that much stress would bend most anything.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 7:05 pm to GM4UA
So either it has been this way since the rig sunk, or it is the end of all life as we know it
Hopefully the truth lies somewhere in the middle and these relief wells are successful. 


Posted on 6/24/10 at 7:18 pm to jennBN
The well can still be killed with the relief well even if the surface conductor caves in.
Posted on 6/24/10 at 8:11 pm to tigerfan1974
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The well can still be killed with the relief well even if the surface conductor caves in.
This is what I believe to be true as well unless I am not fully visualizing this properly.
You have the well bore down to the oil resivoir which is at a >>P than that of the surroundings which is why the oil is gushing out. Because of the violent nature of the expelled oil along with the entrained abrasive elements (ie sand etc) it is causing the well bore to erode away not cave in as one poster said. It would be impossible for the well bore to cave inward near the surface due to the large pressure differential.
Because all other methods have ceased to work, including the top kill method one can speculate the reason is because there is actually a leak somewhere between the casing of the BOP and that of the oil resevoir. What the relief well(s) intend to accomplish is to decrease the pressure differential between the oil resevoir and that of the leaky well bore.
Intuitively this makes sense that it would work it is just how long it will take to drill the relief well(s). Please feel free to critique what I have written as I have no first hand knowledge of what is truly taking place. Is this correct??
Posted on 6/24/10 at 9:09 pm to LSUthrilla
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Is this correct??
I hope so! I am waiting to hear from the other experts...Tigerfred... etc.etc....

This post was edited on 6/24/10 at 9:10 pm
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