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Here's what you do if you're Texas, really.

Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:13 pm
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:13 pm
You're Texas. You're perhaps the most powerful school there is. Take control here.

You're tied to Texas A&M, which isn't a problem because you want them in your conference no matter what.

Just start from scratch and form a new Southwest Conference, ally yourself with the Cotton Bowl, and sign a deal starting with the next BCS contract, which likely will have the Cotton in the BCS rotation.

So who do you invite to your club?

Oklahoma (and, therefore, Oklahoma State) is the obvious first choice. Then I think you take the two Kansas schools. We're now at 6, and we have two ways to go with this. Eight teams is the minimum for a BCS auto-bid, and 12 is the minimum for a championship game.

At this point, a lot could happen, but doesn't this seem to be the obvious way to go for Texas? Why are they sitting and waiting to be invited--shouldn't they be the ones behind the wheel here?

Posted by Ross
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:15 pm to
You just love yourself some SWC
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:16 pm to
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You just love yourself some SWC
Quit being a dick, Ross.
Posted by The White Lobster
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:17 pm to
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You just love yourself
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:20 pm to
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You're Texas. You're perhaps the most powerful school there is. Take control here.


They are the most powerful school, but they are in the weakest conference in their region. They can't pull schools from the SEC,PAC 10, Or Big 10.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:24 pm to
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They are the most powerful school, but they are in the weakest conference in their region. They can't pull schools from the SEC,PAC 10, Or Big 10.

They don't need to, nor should they try to. Texas could reunite the old Arkansasless SWC and add the Oklahomas and Kansases and stage a title game and get a BCS bid to the Cotton Bowl starting in '14 or '15. They'd dominate that conference and get as big a slice of the pie as they pleased.
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:25 pm to
Do you know how many basketball units / TV revenue / DOLLARS they would lose by forming their own conference from scratch, xiv?

Obviously not.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:27 pm to
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Do you know how many basketball units / TV revenue / DOLLARS they would lose by forming their own conference from scratch, xiv?

Obviously not.

So why don't you just tell me?
This post was edited on 6/9/10 at 2:28 pm
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

You're Texas. You're perhaps the most powerful school there is. Take control here.

You're tied to Texas A&M, which isn't a problem because you want them in your conference no matter what.

Just start from scratch and form a new Southwest Conference, ally yourself with the Cotton Bowl, and sign a deal starting with the next BCS contract, which likely will have the Cotton in the BCS rotation.

So who do you invite to your club?

Oklahoma (and, therefore, Oklahoma State) is the obvious first choice. Then I think you take the two Kansas schools. We're now at 6, and we have two ways to go with this. Eight teams is the minimum for a BCS auto-bid, and 12 is the minimum for a championship game.

At this point, a lot could happen, but doesn't this seem to be the obvious way to go for Texas? Why are they sitting and waiting to be invited--shouldn't they be the ones behind the wheel here?


I haven't really taken the time to totally understand all this conference shifting, so can someone tell me why everyone is trying to get out of the Big 12?
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:30 pm to
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So why don't you just tell me?


Sure. But, first, one very important question:

is ULM in this new conference?
Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
20535 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

You're Texas. You're perhaps the most powerful school there is. Take control here.

You're tied to Texas A&M, which isn't a problem because you want them in your conference no matter what.

Just start from scratch and form a new Southwest Conference, ally yourself with the Cotton Bowl, and sign a deal starting with the next BCS contract, which likely will have the Cotton in the BCS rotation.

So who do you invite to your club?

Oklahoma (and, therefore, Oklahoma State) is the obvious first choice. Then I think you take the two Kansas schools. We're now at 6, and we have two ways to go with this. Eight teams is the minimum for a BCS auto-bid, and 12 is the minimum for a championship game.

At this point, a lot could happen, but doesn't this seem to be the obvious way to go for Texas? Why are they sitting and waiting to be invited--shouldn't they be the ones behind the wheel here?


The big12 is in this mess because of Texas. They wouldn't agree to a conference TV deal that would share the revenue. Why the frick would the teams that are getting screwed by Texas back them up?
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:32 pm to
I honestly don't know, truthbetold. I haven't heard anything from ULM in this matter--who knows what they're up to.

I take it that you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:32 pm to
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I haven't really taken the time to totally understand all this conference shifting, so can someone tell me why everyone is trying to get out of the Big 12?


horrible tv contracts, and unbalanced sharing of revenue that greatly favors Texas
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:33 pm to
I just don't believe it's that bad. If it was, why wouldn't the other 11 Big 12 schools vote to expel Texas?

Obviously the good outweighs the bad when it comes to an association with Texas.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:34 pm to
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can someone tell me why everyone is trying to get out of the Big 12?



because they can make more money in other conferences

Big 12 could try and salvage something by adding Houston or SMU or TCU type teams but they still end up being overwhelmingly regional

If Nebraska has indeed left the Big 12 they are in serious trouble - Big 12 North without Nebraska is like Pam Anderson without the tits
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

They don't need to, nor should they try to. Texas could reunite the old Arkansasless SWC and add the Oklahomas and Kansases and stage a title game and get a BCS bid to the Cotton Bowl starting in '14 or '15. They'd dominate that conference and get as big a slice of the pie as they pleased.


this is basically how they formed the Big 12.. and everyone hates it..
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:36 pm to
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Why the frick would the teams that are getting screwed by Texas back them up?
My point exactly. Texas brings a lot to the table, but they have some huge negatives as well - their demonstrated inability to work well with their conference mates.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:37 pm to
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I just don't believe it's that bad. If it was, why wouldn't the other 11 Big 12 schools vote to expel Texas?


because no one wants to watch just the other 11. That's why they're trying to latch on with other conferences that people do want to watch.

or they're Baylor, Kansas, KSU, and ISU who are frickED
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:38 pm to
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My point exactly. Texas brings a lot to the table, but they have some huge negatives as well - their demonstrated inability to work well with their conference mates.

Something still doesn't add up. Who's more powerful, Texas or the rest of the Big 12?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37221 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Who's more powerful, Texas or the rest of the Big 12?



Closer call than you probably think
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