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Louisiana not waiting for barrier approval any longer

Posted on 5/23/10 at 5:56 pm
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10693 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 5:56 pm
Good stuff by Jindal here. I really hope the feds try to arrest somebody for doing this. I don't think the rest of country realize what is going on here and how passionate people in Louisiana are becoming.



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Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal says the state is not waiting for federal approval to begin building sand barriers to protect the coastline from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

Bobby Jindal's defiant comments Sunday came as oil pushed at least 12 miles into the heart of Louisiana's marshes. Two major pelican rookeries are now awash in crude.

Jindal made his remarks on a boat at the edge of one of the pelican nesting grounds in Barataria Bay. He and officials from several coastal parishes say the berms would close the door on the oil still pouring from a deepwater gusher about 50 miles off the coast.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is studying the environmental impacts from the emergency barrier proposal. The Corps didn't immediately respond to e-mails and telephone messages.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 8:37 am
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28876 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:03 pm to
Screw the corpse of engineers, their crap has already cost our state billions. They need to step aside with their assinine studies, and let us do what we need to do. Hell, screw the possibility of us netting something positive out of this, but instead let us sit around with our fingers in our nose and let the oil rush in unabated while we conduct "studies".

Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28876 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:04 pm to
Lets see if anything happens tomorrow, if it does I will have major kudos for Bobby. I've been back and forth on my opinion of him, but if he has the stones to stick up to the feds on this one. He deserves major props.
Posted by eye65
Member since Aug 2009
987 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:04 pm to
saw this the other day....this will take weeks to construct correct? also, hasn't this been discussed in the past as a way to try to stop the erosion of the marshes?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34166 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:10 pm to
Surprised there has been very little talk about BP denying Jindals request to bring in a ton of barges of rocks and gravel in to make barriers. BP said it was too expensive.

The problem here is the dredging up an oil coated surface and making a damn with it. But it needs to happen so the cleanup can commence.
Posted by mmill32
Williamson County, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
2997 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:14 pm to
it would just slow the rate at which erosion occurs.. would in essence serve as breakers and dampen energy of wave approach
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10693 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

this will take weeks to construct correct?


A lot longer than that. Especially since it appears we will be without the corps of engineers fleet of 12 dredges. This is why everyone was hoping the corps would approve the project because they have the resources to get this done quickly.


quote:

also, hasn't this been discussed in the past as a way to try to stop the erosion of the marshes?


Yes, dredging has been used and is proposed as a way to rebuild marshland.

Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6457 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:24 pm to
About time this state stood up to the federal goverment and do what needs to be done.
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is studying the environmental impacts from the emergency barrier proposal


Be prepared to wait a very long time for this. What a joke these clowns are.
Posted by cajunatc
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2003
2463 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 7:18 pm to
SO our issue is with the military?
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 7:36 pm to
Rodnreel.com is accepting donations to Plaquemines for this very thing. I have pledged 100.00. If Nungesser moves on his own I will give more.

This is exactly the type of action that needs to take place. Doing nothing cannot be an option.
This post was edited on 5/23/10 at 7:38 pm
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22761 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 7:55 pm to
Man, I really do hope Bobby Jindal follows through on this. He's showing the nation what real leadership and action is all about.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8665 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Rodnreel.com is accepting donations to Plaquemines for this very thing. I have pledged 100.00. If Nungesser moves on his own I will give more.



Would anyone really trust Plaquemines parish to properly allocate any money they receive from donations? That parish has a longstanding reputation for corruption and "good old boy" politics.
This post was edited on 5/23/10 at 7:58 pm
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 8:13 pm to
Yeah well like I said if this helps create some action I'm all for it. This is not like other govt taxes whereby you dont know what the money is being used for or where its going to go.

You will know if and when they start this project.


However I'm sure your skepticism comes with a new alternative solution so lets hear it!
Posted by hammer5365
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
1253 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 9:11 pm to
The Army Corps of Engineers are not really a part of the military.
Posted by Loophole
Brentwood
Member since Feb 2008
104 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:00 am to
quote:

The Army Corps of Engineers are not really a part of the military.


Not really a part of the military? Tell that to the Corps' Commanding General, Lieutenant General Robert Van Antwerp. The Corps is absolutely really a part of the military, employing over 34,000 civilians and soldiers doing civil and military engineering work in over 100 countries worldwide.

Yes, the great majority of Corps employees are civilians, but ever since George Washington appointed the first Army engineer officers during the American Revolution, the Corps has been part of the military.
Posted by hammer5365
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
1253 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 2:02 am to
No one thinks of the Army Corps of Engineers when they think of the military man. Its almost all civilians.
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 3:51 am to
Duh..your issue might be. I have worked on dozens of projects that needed approval from the corp of engineers and all they do is put a cog in the wheel while they drink a cup of coffee.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
6053 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:58 am to
I agree, it took me three months to get a permit to put a new bulkhead over an existing bulkhead. I was stopping my land from eroding away from a depleted bulkhead.

Man I hope Jindal does this on our own, I would donate to this cause.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:02 am to
Need the COE's extra dredges though.

I say shut down the LOOP and every pipeline until we get approval and the COE help
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