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It couldn't be more obvious. You're responsible for the cost of
Posted on 5/22/10 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 5/22/10 at 6:41 pm
cleanup so you disperse it to the bottom of the sea. frick the sea floor. Let somebody try proving in court they've been hurt by oil at the bottom of the sea.
This dispersant idea is NOT to help avoid environmental catastrophe... it's only about avoiding the cost of cleaning.
We need President Obama to order a halt to this shite RIGHT NOW.
This dispersant idea is NOT to help avoid environmental catastrophe... it's only about avoiding the cost of cleaning.
We need President Obama to order a halt to this shite RIGHT NOW.
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Posted on 5/22/10 at 6:49 pm to Rex
If they never spray dispersants, do you think oil would be washing up on the White Beaches of FL by now?? Maybe...Right?? Who knows?? Maybe it would be in the marsh farther north than it is now....
This shite has to go somewhere...Pick your poison..
And please bring this weak arse shite to the Poli-board where it belongs.
This shite has to go somewhere...Pick your poison..
And please bring this weak arse shite to the Poli-board where it belongs.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 6:50 pm to Rex
Legit question?
Does the dispersant cause the oil to sink or to just disperse?
My only real life understanding of dispersant is dishwashing liquid and it doesn't make anything sink. Furthermore, I don't see how the physics could possibly work, but I really don't know.
Does the dispersant cause the oil to sink or to just disperse?
My only real life understanding of dispersant is dishwashing liquid and it doesn't make anything sink. Furthermore, I don't see how the physics could possibly work, but I really don't know.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 6:56 pm to TheHiddenFlask
way i understand it is that it just causes the oil to go into suspension so it wil be more diluted. so yes, it won't be as visible on the sea surface
Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:02 pm to Rex
The worst part is that they are using corexit when there are other chemicals available that are proven to be less toxic, and more effective. And it's funny, former BP execs run Nalco, the company that makes corexit. Shocking.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:06 pm to MC123
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are other chemicals available that are proven to be less toxic, and more effective.
As I understand it, the less toxic stuff was not available in the amounts needed three weeks ago. It also was not really any more proven to be friendler to the ocean than what has been used up to date.
Either way, this stuff scares the crap out of me.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:10 pm to notiger1997
Man the name of the game for BP is mitigation and avoidance.
Problem is whatever they do the environment and fishing industry in South LA is screwed and it will be a long hard fight to prove the damage that BP has really done.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:37 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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Does the dispersant cause the oil to sink or to just disperse?
My understanding (and I'm not a chemist, so don't get up my arse) is that it has an effect on the surface tension of a slick, causing it to break up. It also breaks down the hydrocarbon string, allowing the lighter fractions to evaporate and the heavier ends to sink.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:45 pm to Rex
quote:To me,this actually makes sense and coming from Rex,that says a lot.
cleanup so you disperse it to the bottom of the sea. frick the sea floor. Let somebody try proving in court they've been hurt by oil at the bottom of the sea.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 11:28 pm to Rex
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This dispersant idea is NOT to help avoid environmental catastrophe
Are you arguing that there is as much life 3000-4000 feet down, 1000 feet off of the bottom as there is on the surface?
Even if what you say IS the motive.....you can't really argue that the result is not the same.
This post was edited on 5/22/10 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 5/22/10 at 11:33 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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Does the dispersant cause the oil to sink or to just disperse?
To my understanding, if it was added to the surface slick, it would make it disperse. The underwater plume is more of a side effect of the addition at the ocean vent than anything.
Posted on 5/23/10 at 10:37 am to Rex
While BP must assume the liability for the damage that this massive spill will cause, the government must also assume responsibility for its lack of oversight and allowing what should have been a routine accident to reach catastrophic proportions.
Now be honest. If Bush was still in charge, every Dem here would be all over his arse for the
government's inadequate response. I would too. But why is nobody all over Obama's arse for his weak and failed response? It's been a frickin' month, already!
Imagine if a city had no ladder fire trucks and just let skyscrapers burn? Imagine if there was no FAA and commercial airlines were a free-for-all. The government failed spectacularly here, but this is Obama's watch. He paid enough attention to give BP awards, so there's no excuse for his lack of preparedness or his spectacularly ineffective and inadequate action for weeks now.
Now be honest. If Bush was still in charge, every Dem here would be all over his arse for the
government's inadequate response. I would too. But why is nobody all over Obama's arse for his weak and failed response? It's been a frickin' month, already!
Imagine if a city had no ladder fire trucks and just let skyscrapers burn? Imagine if there was no FAA and commercial airlines were a free-for-all. The government failed spectacularly here, but this is Obama's watch. He paid enough attention to give BP awards, so there's no excuse for his lack of preparedness or his spectacularly ineffective and inadequate action for weeks now.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 5:24 pm to Rex
This morning on WWL radio a spokesperson for BP, John Curry, assured us that if oil from the well hit the shore that they would pay to clean it up.
Sink the oil to the bottom of the Gulf. Kill everything there. Kill the start of the food chain and thus the food chain. As long as oil doesn't hit the shore BP will not pay for cleanup.
Sink the oil to the bottom of the Gulf. Kill everything there. Kill the start of the food chain and thus the food chain. As long as oil doesn't hit the shore BP will not pay for cleanup.
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