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Posted on 5/20/10 at 6:08 pm
Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 6:08 pm
I don't want to make this a states rights issue. But when is the state gonna tell the fed where to shove it and do what we believe is best for OUR coast.
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3548 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 6:28 pm to
When we're sure that we can force-recoup the money from BP. We can't afford to do what we want done right on our own.
Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 6:57 pm to
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Posted by CrazyTigerFan
When we're sure that we can force-recoup the money from BP. We can't afford to do what we want done right on our own.





Sounds a little like colusion to me. What BP doesn't want to so. The corps won't permit.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:01 pm to
I don't want to make this a states rights issue. But when is the state gonna tell the fed where to shove it and do what we believe is best for OUR coast.
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totally no lose move for Bobby J. Hell even the tree huggers would agree. Conservative would love the states rights side. U can always sue BP an win with no problem
Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
ROWMCO
Member since Aug 2007
11103 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:04 pm to
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totally no lose move for Bobby J. Hell even the tree huggers would agree. Conservative would love the states rights side. U can always sue BP an win with no problem



Wow that's a hell of a campaign move for an aspiring pol figure.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10919 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:14 pm to

I would guess the hang up for the state is that the corps has the resources (something like 12 dredges) and expertise to get the job done upon approval and could get the work done fairly quickly. Rather than the state having to hire independent dredges without the coordinated effort that would come from the corps.

I agree that the state should tell the feds to get fricked and do it ourselves but Bobby has to try all other avenues first I would guess.

It all goes back to fair revenue sharing. If we were treated equally we could handle this ourselves.

Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:18 pm to
BP didnt want to pay for rocks so the states option was sand from established barrier islands.

There is a great need for places to stay along the coast for cleanup crews and ldwf has quite a few camps and wildlife management areas that had to close for budget cuts. The state cannot open these camps because of funding so they approached BP and BP has been dragging their feet.

There is a great need to open up the marine lab in Fourchon again, com'on BP step up to the plate.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:19 pm to
Could be a great time to call a moratorium on oil production in the St until we get what we want!

BJ has played nice, now time to hit the mule between the eyes with a 2x4!
This post was edited on 5/20/10 at 7:21 pm
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10919 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:33 pm to
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Could be a great time to call a moratorium on oil production in the St until we get what we want!


I couldn't agree more!

Be careful you get blasted by the industry workers when you bring this up as they worry about their jobs. Which is of course completely understandable.

But it is our leverage and a legitimate argument in favor of Louisiana. Perhaps even the mention of LA considering this move would get some attention and actual action. I'm sure Jindal could explain our situation clearly to the American people and the reasons behind our stance.



Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:57 pm to
Be careful you get blasted by the industry workers when you bring this up as they worry about their jobs. Which is of course completely understandable.

But it is our leverage and a legitimate argument in favor of Louisiana. Perhaps even the mention of LA considering this move would get some attention and actual action. I'm sure Jindal could explain our situation clearly to the American people and the reasons behind our stance.
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all BJ has to do is play the bluff and fool the media. Once the media does some home work they will scare the shite out of their audiences! Hell even other oil co would pitch in to avoid lossing production money! These bastards are making billions out of our state every year.
Posted by Coastal Tiger
Along the vanishing Louisiana coast
Member since Apr 2005
2266 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 10:42 pm to
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otally no lose move for Bobby J. Hell even the tree huggers would agree. Conservative would love the states rights side. U can always sue BP an win with no problem



Correct ...but remember Bobby is a policy wonk...more suited for spreadsheets than hardball politics. Hence, he missed a GOLDEN opportunity to do what you said.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29218 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 10:45 pm to
We get americas shite that creates a deadzone off our coast and we can't get oil royalties until 2017? BS......
Posted by YatTigah
Lakeview, New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2010
517 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 10:45 pm to
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Correct ...but remember Bobby is a pu$$y...more suited for spreadsheets than hardball politics. Hence, he missed a GOLDEN opportunity to do what you said.


if you think Jindal is going to do anything to jeopardize his presidential aspirations, you are out of your mind.
This post was edited on 5/20/10 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 10:49 pm to

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Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/21/10 at 7:02 am to
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if you think Jindal is going to do anything to jeopardize his presidential aspirations, you are out of your mind.


Right now BJ is hardly even mentioned as a presidential candidate. Politically this would be a great move for him if he does truly have presidential ambitions. The Feds are known for foot dragging in the time of crisis. The Corp knows no other speed than that of snail. If BJ truly wants what is right for LA marshes and wants a huge national cameo as the Bull shite has gotta stop kinda guy now is the time to pick up a big stick.

Time is running out for this move. Once the oil hits the FL keys it will be too late. At that time LA and it marshes will be a by gone thought.
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 7:05 am
Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
ROWMCO
Member since Aug 2007
11103 posts
Posted on 5/21/10 at 7:28 am to
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Time is running out for this move. Once the oil hits the FL keys it will be too late. At that time LA and it marshes will be a by gone thought.



Correct when it nears Florida that build devices that rival that fence the chinese built. You'll see that Fricker from space.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/21/10 at 7:36 am to
Here is some good information from the Houston Chronicle.

LINK

Jefferson Parish Councilman John Young said President Barack Obama should take a stronger role in the fight against the oil, letting BP PLC concentrate on trying to plug the leak a mile undersea. The oil company operated the Deepwater Horizon rig, which exploded April 20 and sank two days later, triggering the spill that has dumped at least 6 million gallons of crude, though some scientists say it is more.

Young said Obama should pressure the Army Corps of Engineers to approve a plan to use dredged sand to build long sand berms — in effect creating new barrier islands or rebuilding old ones — to protect delicate coastal wetlands. Some of those wetlands, in Plaquemines Parish, have already been fouled by thick oil. The proposal was submitted to the corps by Jindal's administration, but the corps hasn't acted on it.


“We've given BP enough time,” Young said. “We need the president of the United States to take control of the situation.”
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/21/10 at 7:42 am to
Time for BJ to come out with the LA sick and tired of being the cesspool for the country. Either fix our coast of freeze in the dark!
He needs to make the speech in front of a joint session of LA legislature and have them all rise up at the end in a united front Dems and Rep alike. Show the nation we mean business now. Enough is enough we've had it.
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 7:45 am
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10919 posts
Posted on 5/21/10 at 7:58 am to

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He needs to make the speech in front of a joint session of LA legislature and have them all rise up at the end in a united front Dems and Rep alike. Show the nation we mean business now. Enough is enough we've had it.


The thought of this brings a smile to my face and a tear to my eye.

Do it Jindal...do it!!

Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/21/10 at 8:02 am to
I agree, that would be nice Republicans and Dems in a show of unity and denounce BP for their lack of attention.

BP has dropped the ball in so many ways in so many areas its sad.

Its a fine line here in LA though. Nobody wants govt help and have been denouncing it for months. This after Feds bailed Louisiana out with 190B from Katrina which has largely kept Louisiana out of the recession. Now everyone is begging the feds to take more control over BP.

It is kind of refreshing to see Jindal and others call out BP after the Charades they've been pulling on Louisiana residents and the american public.
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 8:09 am
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