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Posted on 5/20/10 at 10:25 am
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 10:25 am
So which way is it?

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COVINGTON, La. -- BP says a mile-long tube it inserted into a leak on the blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico is capturing 210,000 gallons of oil a day, but some is still escaping. The company has long estimated that 210,000 gallons is the total amount that's leaking, but BP spokesman Mark Proegler said Thursday the tube is not sucking up all the oil. He would not estimate how much is not being captured.


Tube capturing 210,000 gallons of Gulf oil a day
This post was edited on 5/20/10 at 10:28 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62486 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 10:33 am to
Probably the reporter screwed up. 210,000 gal = 5,000bbl. Not coincidnetally that's Bp's estimated flow rate. The highest I've see Bp say they were recovering from other sources was 2,000 bopd.

Edit: The Bp spox could have screwedd up, too...
This post was edited on 5/20/10 at 10:34 am
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8740 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 10:35 am to
Macondo 5/19

According to this they are recovering 3,000 BOPD and 14 MMCFGD through the riser insert tube.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 12:10 pm to
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Probably the reporter screwed up. 210,000 gal = 5,000bbl. Not coincidnetally that's Bp's estimated flow rate. The highest I've see Bp say they were recovering from other sources was 2,000 bopd. Edit: The Bp spox could have screwedd up, too.


Keeping up with this incident, you realize what a poor job the media does with facts.
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
18042 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 1:26 pm to
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Probably the reporter screwed up. 210,000 gal = 5,000bbl. Not coincidnetally that's Bp's estimated flow rate


Nope. BP screwed up.

BP admits leak is bigger than 210000 a day
Posted by mmill32
Williamson County, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
2999 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 1:43 pm to
holy shite... 3.9 million from Purdue prof.. Hope he's way off base
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 1:48 pm to
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holy shite... 3.9 million from Purdue prof.. Hope he's way off base


and thats his conservative estimate. He is the foremost authority in the world using this technique thus he was brought in by congress.

BP is already siphoning 5K barrels a day, yet it still looks like a geiser on the video
Posted by mmill32
Williamson County, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
2999 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 1:53 pm to
mud, relative to the bathymetry, where was this well located? shelf or slope area?
Posted by ComicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2005
992 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 2:42 pm to
Nothing to see hear, just listen to those posters who work for the oil companies tell you all you need to know. It's the media screwing up. A company on the hook for untold millions in damage would never screw up, much less underestimate the scale of their mess.
Posted by WNCTiger
Member since Aug 2006
2883 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 2:53 pm to
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"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"


Upton Sinclair.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 3:01 pm to
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A company on the hook for untold millions in damage would never screw up, much less underestimate the scale of their mess.

Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

quote:
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"


Upton Sinclair.


thus we have the spectacle of the two tests showing likelihood of a leak, and yet, they went ahead...



Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 3:06 pm to
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the media screwing up

i would say the media is lazy and is not researching things much more deeper than writing down 1 or 2 sentences that come out of press releases, press conferences, etc.

this shite is complicated and trying to simplify it totally changes the message that needs to be conveyed, plus paints an inadvertantly inaccurate picture of the issue.
Posted by ComicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2005
992 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 3:22 pm to
Yes, it's all the media, BP hasn't once been slow, incorrect or outright deceitful in disseminating information about what's going on and their assessment.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 3:31 pm to
How dare anyone ever question BP. They have nothing to gain or lose regarding this oil spill.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 3:47 pm to
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How dare anyone ever question BP. They have nothing to gain or lose regarding this oil spill.

i'm not trying to whitewash BP or anyone involved in this. all i'm saying is that there have been blatant errors reported from the very beginning of this -- showing the horizon as a moored vessel, what is a BOP, how it works, how reliable is it, what is required, etc.

i'm not advocating any kind of deceitfulness, i'm just asking that they make the extra effort to get the story 100% right -- not stuff that you're dependent on BP to get, but stuff that's out there in the public domain.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62486 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 3:55 pm to
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How dare anyone ever question BP. They have nothing to gain or lose regarding this oil spill.
They really don't. They are going to get the maximum statutory fines. That's a given. They've committed to paying all cleanup costs. So, the rate at which it's coming out of the pipe, really is irrelevant. They aren't paying by-the-gallon.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12970 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 4:02 pm to
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So, the rate at which it's coming out of the pipe, really is irrelevant. They aren't paying by-the-gallon.


WTF?
So the total amount of oil eventually spilled won't affect their cleanup costs?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62486 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 4:33 pm to
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So the total amount of oil eventually spilled won't affect their cleanup costs?
Of course their cost rise with quantity. But they aren't paying $X per barrel for cleanup. IOW claiming a lower rate will not reduce their cleanup cost or lower their fines. They are going to pay the same even if they claimed it was 5bopd.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 5:00 pm to

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