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How much in punitive damages alone

Posted on 5/17/10 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/17/10 at 5:11 pm
will BP be hit with? Exxon got hit with 5 billion at first and by the end it was down to 500 million. Any guesses?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20508 posts
Posted on 5/17/10 at 6:17 pm to
3-5 billion that will stick, the rig sinking already cost them a billion and another billion at least to stop the well.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36870 posts
Posted on 5/17/10 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

3-5 billion that will stick, the rig sinking already cost them a billion and another billion at least to stop the well.

I thought the rig belonged to Transocean. Plus, I bet Lloyds of London gets to pay for the rig.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22603 posts
Posted on 5/17/10 at 8:09 pm to
You will not know for at least a decade. BP will follow Exxon's script and take to appeals where it will be for yrs. So far, everything I've read says the seafood are still in good shape. If that is in fact true, I would guess the shrimpers are only out the amt they would of made, minus the amount BP is already paying them.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/17/10 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

I thought the rig belonged to Transocean. Plus, I bet Lloyds of London gets to pay for the rig.


Yes. The rig was insured and it was owned by Transocean, not BP.
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1597 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 9:59 am to
punitive are capped at $75 million. there was some legislation going through congress last week that tried to up it to $10 billion, not sure how it did though.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 10:04 am to
quote:

there was some legislation going through congress last week that tried to up it to $10 billion, not sure how it did though.


Democrats' attempts to bring the legislation to the floor last week were blocked by Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. Democrats are expected to try again this week to bring the measure up for consideration.

Murkowski, a drilling supporter, has received almost $300,000 in campaign contributions from the oil and gas industry. While Murkowski said that she supports raising the cap, she argued that the $10 billion figure would prohibit all but the biggest of oil companies from drilling oil offshore:

Her husband also works for BP
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 10:22 am
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 10:18 am to
it depends on what happens with the plume that is 4,000 feet under water, heading for Florida keys.

If there is a publicity nightmare, such as the actual proven loss of the coral reef, you can triple the damages.

If nothing much additionally comes of this, the practical limits will be the fishing industry's real losses and some piddling amount paid to resort hotels which can show cancellations.

Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20508 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 11:38 am to
quote:

While Murkowski said that she supports raising the cap, she argued that the $10 billion figure would prohibit all but the biggest of oil companies from drilling oil offshore:




This is exactly rite, should they raise it hell yea, to 10 billion no way in hell.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17522 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 11:42 am to
Whats the fine for not calling La. 811 before you dig?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 11:49 am to
Make it 50 Billion as far as I'm concerned.

Once the tar balls are confirmed and more begin washing up. BPs rep will be tarnished and the cost will skyrocket.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 11:26 am to
BP has a 65% stake in Mississippi Canyon Block 252. Anadarko has 25% and Japanese player Mitsui the remaining 10%. All are liable for costs on a proportionate basis.

Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8740 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 11:28 am to
quote:

BP has a 65% stake in Mississippi Canyon Block 252. Anadarko has 25% and Japanese player Mitsui the remaining 10%. All are liable for costs on a proportionate basis.



I think Anadarko is covered by insurance until their interest expense exceeds somewhere like 1.2 to 1.6 billion dollars. After that they are out of pocket. I don't have a clue about Mitsui.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12970 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 11:29 am to
Which one of those companies is a small "mom and pop" operation?
This post was edited on 5/20/10 at 11:31 am
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Which one of those is a small "mom and pop" operation?

to re-phrase, it would basically eliminate anyone but BP, Chevron, Shell, Exxon, or Total from drilling in the deepwater gulf of mexico.

non-super majors would be excluded.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12970 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 11:33 am to
quote:

non-super majors would be excluded


How many non-super majors do deepwater drilling?
(not being a smartass, very curious)
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27804 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 11:36 am to
quote:

How many non-super majors do deepwater drilling?


I don't have the exact number but there are quite a few.
Posted by YatTigah
Lakeview, New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2010
517 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 11:51 am to
quote:

to re-phrase, it would basically eliminate anyone but BP, Chevron, Shell, Exxon, or Total from drilling in the deepwater gulf of mexico.

non-super majors would be excluded.


so if a super major can fail this badly with no apparent way of fixing it, why would I want a smaller operation to drill in deepwater?
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12970 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

so if a super major can fail this badly with no apparent way of fixing it, why would I want a smaller operation to drill in deepwater?


Good question.
And if a company can't afford to clean up the mess and pay damages, they shouldn't be drilling in the first place.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28149 posts
Posted on 5/21/10 at 1:28 am to
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And if a company can't afford to clean up the mess and pay damages, they shouldn't be drilling in the first place


Saudi Arabi agrees with you. We should ban drilling in all places that could negatively effect the US environment.
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