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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)

Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:35 pm to
Dunno what age reservoir this is. What subsea depth were they at when they TD'd the well?
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I keep seeing the well was around 18000 subsea depth. With all the erroneous numbers bouncing around who knows.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21979 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:45 pm to
these stacks are rated for 15k pressure. there is no way that the well bore pressure reached 20k to 30k.

Posted by blueTunaTiger
Gulf of Mexico, USA
Member since Feb 2009
3696 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:51 pm to
This was just blasted by WAFB - Baton Rouge

quote:

BP's chairman is rejecting criticism that his company's safety record played a role in the drilling rig explosion and oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Lamar McKay is putting the blame on "a failed piece of equipment." McKay said he doesn't know how much oil is flowing from the well off the Louisiana coast. He said estimates of 210,000 gallons a day are uncertain.


No shite Sherlock. He has shareholders to answer to. He better throw everyone else under the bus.

quote:

In a news conference Saturday, Gov. Jindal talked about a 'second line of defense' to keep the oil from last week's spill from creeping onto land, including the use of rocks and debris, in addition to booms currently being used to contain the oil. He is meeting with parish presidents and public safety officials in coastal parishes to further solidify plans to protect the area.

"We are past the point of waiting for any clean up plans from BP or the Incident Commander. We have already begun developing contingency plans for parishes – meaning we are preparing detailed secondary response capabilities to protect our land and our people. We are developing those plans ourselves and we need two things to implement these plans – funding approval from BP and authorization from the Incident Commander," Jindal explained.

He emphasized the importance of using Louisiana fisherman to help with putting in booms to help contain the oil currently washing up along the state's coastline. Jindal also announced the Louisiana National Guard has been activated and 600 guardsmen are currently on the ground to assist in many different capacities to help with the cleanup.

"We are asking that for these contingency plans to be approved so we are no longer in the position of requesting boom by the foot for one particular place or another. We want to empower local officials on the ground with the knowledge and the know-how to best protect their communities," Jindal said.


Say what you want about Lil' Bobby, but it sounds like he is demanding everyone get out of the way and let our people work. This is something FEMA and the Fed Gov't has never been able to understand. Let's just hope POTUS can understand to the point that he gets his people to buy into this.
Posted by STEALTH
Kansas
Member since Feb 2008
958 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:57 pm to
Fellows, thank you for explaining this stuff because as someone who is not in the industry its very hard to understand what happend. Seems we have alot of guys from different backgrounds in the oil industry helping put the pieces of these recent events together as best you can.

Who is the most liable from your prespectives?
BP
T.O.
Cameron
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8629 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

these stacks are rated for 15k pressure. there is no way that the well bore pressure reached 20k to 30k.


There have to be some rated higher than that. There are fields in the deepwater with well over 20k initial reservoir pressure.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8629 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:59 pm to
But yeah i find the 30 to 40k pressures that "James" stated to be highly unlikely.
Posted by DaphneTigah
Flying under the radar.
Member since Dec 2007
4981 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Say what you want about Lil' Bobby, but it sounds like he is demanding everyone get out of the way and let our people work. This is something FEMA and the Fed Gov't has never been able to understand. Let's just hope POTUS can understand to the point that he gets his people to buy into this




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Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21979 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Who is the most liable from your prespectives?
BP
T.O.
Cameron


so many different scenarios could have played out here. so, until the official report comes back from mms, we will not know. we can only speculate right now.


Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8629 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:00 pm to
Ultimate responsibility lies with BP.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21979 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

There have to be some rated higher than that. There


let me be more specific. the annulars are rated for 15k.

Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:09 pm to
Pretty sure the yard test them to 1.5 of their rating.
However even the rating and testing doesn't prevent some component from failing to stand up to the back pressure.
Posted by shaunk128
Houma
Member since Jan 2008
82 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

There have to be some rated higher than that. There are fields in the deepwater with well over 20k initial reservoir pressure.


That is correct. Some equipment is rated highter than 15K. There is a difference between reservoir pressure and wellhead stack pressures.
This post was edited on 5/2/10 at 1:33 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:24 pm to
quote:


Ultimate responsibility lies with BP.



Only with the spill and the cleanup, not the accident. With the accident only time will tell
This post was edited on 5/2/10 at 1:25 pm
Posted by lsuougel
lafayette
Member since Nov 2008
3136 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:56 pm to
my dad leaves tom morning for his shift(superintendent for Shell) on the Nautilus..He's already been given word that State and Fed investigators will be on the rig starting tom including the Coast Guard.

Sad part is that Shell is not bringing extra personnel to help with the investigation which means he's got to do his job plus answer shite tons of questions at the same time.

He's not in a very particularly good mood right now.
Posted by SCTiger
Member since Apr 2005
635 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:56 pm to
tigerdup 07. Thank you for your inpunt, very informative. Im am anengineer, CE, no oil experience. I have read these posts and read a few crappy online article about the anatomy of a well. I get a little confused when I hear you say "they opened the annular after cementing." What annular? I thought cementing filled the annular between a casing and the borehole?
It sounds like the riser is alarge diameter (19") casing that goes from the riser all the way up to the rig. Just how many casings, pipes, stacks etcc are threaded inside each other??
Perhaps a quick rundown of the pipes above the bop and below the bop would help. And which of these pass through the bop as opposed to being attached to it?
Ill hang up and listen.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52188 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

I get a little confused when I hear you say "they opened the annular after cementing." What annular?
He was referring to the annular BOP
Posted by Catahoula
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4311 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 2:02 pm to


Oil booms were being installed at the Rigolets Saturday.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21979 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I thought cementing filled the annular between a casing and the borehole?


your getting annular confused with "annulus". the annular is a huge rubber packer that closes around the drill pipe closing off the ANNULUS.

quote:

Just how many casings, pipes, stacks etcc are threaded inside each other??


jts. of riser are approximately 75' in length. they are not threaded to one another. they stab each other as one side is a male and one is a female. they bolt to one another. the male end contains o-rings to seal the two together.

quote:

Perhaps a quick rundown of the pipes above the bop and below the bop would help. And which of these pass through the bop as opposed to being attached to it?


the riser runs from the rig and has the bop attached at the bottom. important note, each jt. of riser contains four auxillary (hard) lines that are the choke, kill, rigid conduit, and boost lines.

the bop latches up to the wellhead. below the wellhead is casing that are threaded to one another. you start with usually 36" casing right below the well head. the different casing intervals are smaller and smaller the deeper you go. sort of like an upside down chinese yoyo if you will.

keep the questions coming if you are curious. i'll do my best.

Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 2:04 pm to
Just got a e-mail from a friend who's out there. He says the weather is too bad to do anything other than convey supplies to boats anchored in the river.
As expected there are sat dish news trucks a plenty.
Also said we've opened Pandora's box and can't close it.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Also said we've opened Pandora's box and can't close it.


Elaborate please.
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