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re: Do Recruits Read Message Boards?
Posted on 2/15/10 at 7:38 pm to BilJ
Posted on 2/15/10 at 7:38 pm to BilJ
Ha, be funny if the Admins or even us members could vote on posts that are overly negative, especially about the players.
Then once you accumulated enough votes for being negative, you could have "Dummy" or "Ignore my posts, they are ridiculous" posted by your name.
I'll admit, I did my share of Crowton bashing after the season, but I am once again optimistic about our crazy good talent and our upcoming season.
Then once you accumulated enough votes for being negative, you could have "Dummy" or "Ignore my posts, they are ridiculous" posted by your name.
I'll admit, I did my share of Crowton bashing after the season, but I am once again optimistic about our crazy good talent and our upcoming season.
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Posted on 2/15/10 at 7:40 pm to Keys Open Doors
I would have to think all you have to do is imagine a 17 year old googling their name and you have your answer.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 7:42 pm to SteveLSU35
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No doubt that recruits read the sites. Sonny mentions parents being on TSD quite often.
Yep, dad of a 5 star recruit a few years back told me he viewed TD and some other sites while saying that tiger fans were nice to his son, a few other college sites were not. It matters to anyone who has feelings, dad or recruit. Would it matter to you?
The other thing that disturbes me are some of the comments posted when games are in progress. God forbid the poor athlete who makes an error, commits a a foul, fumbles or does something else human. After feeling humiliated for hours and finally arriving home, the temptation of reading the emotional responses of how terrible he or she was and why they should be replaced must be a horrifying experience which can alter the ego dramatically. To be a disappointed fan is human and to be upset is fair (darn, oh no, etc.) but not ridicule them. Just saying.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 7:44 pm to BilJ
Yes, and a lot of the folks on this board deny that. Ctitical discussion yes, but the bashing of high school kids is sickening. They hurt LSU.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 7:44 pm to BilJ
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I'm sure they do, but anyone who thinks the websites should act as spin machines and not used for actual discussion is a jackass as well.
Missed the boat
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at the end of the day the fan's opinions don't have as huge of an impact as some want to believe. Can it effect them? Do they base their choice off of it? Doubtful.
Really? Well who told you this exactly? A recruit? Parent?
Well let me share something with you. WRONG!
I have not spoke to a recruit yet that has brushed this topic off as if it were irrelevant. In fact the same could be said for the parents. I was actually told no for an interview before because they didn't want to subject their CHILD to the unfair scrutiny.
Call it as you see it but if you DON'T KNOW than you DON'T KNOW. Easy enough.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 7:48 pm to BilJ
There is no way to "filter" out the negativity or criticism from this site. You can reason until you are blue in the face (many have) and it will still continue. At the end of the day you are only responsible for your own actions.
It's my opinion that we are fighting a losing battle tying to contain or eradicate negative posts. The question we should be asking is: "How do we give positive reinforcement to recruits and their families in support of our school despite the negativity."
Maybe we need a disclaimer?
Warning: The views expressed in this forum are not necessarily those of TD and in no way are they representative of any perceived connection to LSU, it's athletic department, athletic teams, coaches, faculty, or administration. Read at your own risk, because Tards with keyboards are dangerous.
What I'm saying is maybe we should announce our collective intention, and give these "kids" a basis for which to interpret what they read here.
It's my opinion that we are fighting a losing battle tying to contain or eradicate negative posts. The question we should be asking is: "How do we give positive reinforcement to recruits and their families in support of our school despite the negativity."
Maybe we need a disclaimer?
Warning: The views expressed in this forum are not necessarily those of TD and in no way are they representative of any perceived connection to LSU, it's athletic department, athletic teams, coaches, faculty, or administration. Read at your own risk, because Tards with keyboards are dangerous.
What I'm saying is maybe we should announce our collective intention, and give these "kids" a basis for which to interpret what they read here.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 7:59 pm to ezride25
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There is no way to "filter" out the negativity or criticism from this site
I bet if we gave it to these idiots every time they come with their off base .... they would quit.
Ex: JimmyD writes: I don't see anything about this KID that interest me. He looks lazy and lost out there. I hope to GOD we pull his offer.
Everyone replies:
Get lost chump. JimmyDeez nutz. Or the old thanks Coach Miles for joining us. Or even... You are worthless. What do you bring to the table other than a lunch box full of tears. Get lost 
Posted on 2/15/10 at 8:07 pm to jimmyd
ok jimmy
Posted on 2/15/10 at 8:09 pm to jimmyd
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Call it as you see it but if you DON'T KNOW than you DON'T KNOW. Easy enough.
I may have to RA.
Cause if this is the filter that posts go through, well, the site will disappear
Posted on 2/15/10 at 8:10 pm to jimmyd
i hope the recruits arent as big of pussies as the posters in this thread
if a kid is LSU worthy, i will be very quick to say it and give props
if not, i dont think it's some sort of huge insults to say that you dont think a recruit is LSU material and state the reasons why
not every recruit that is mentioned on this board is LSU material
if a recruit makes his decision based upon a message board, then i dont want that flake on my squad anyway
if a kid is LSU worthy, i will be very quick to say it and give props
if not, i dont think it's some sort of huge insults to say that you dont think a recruit is LSU material and state the reasons why
not every recruit that is mentioned on this board is LSU material
if a recruit makes his decision based upon a message board, then i dont want that flake on my squad anyway
Posted on 2/15/10 at 8:54 pm to Keys Open Doors
I think they read them and I think there's a reasonable way to criticize as well.
I'm not saying the outright sanctioning of criticism is a good idea but the fact is, athletes at every level will be scrutinized. If they want to play with the big plays they better get used to big boy criticism. Most of them are smart and confident enough to just shuck it off.
I'm not saying the outright sanctioning of criticism is a good idea but the fact is, athletes at every level will be scrutinized. If they want to play with the big plays they better get used to big boy criticism. Most of them are smart and confident enough to just shuck it off.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 9:09 pm to Rouge
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if a recruit makes his decision based upon a message board, then i dont want that flake on my squad anyway
Meh, yes & no.
In principle, that's a great idea. Hell, for people in general, I wholeheartedly agree. If a message board is your guidance in life, best of luck to you, but let's not waste time with small talk - I think you're dumb and don't have much time for you.
OTOH, most (granted, not all) recruits are 17-18 year old kids and nowhere near as worldly as they may think they are. As such, sad as it may be, they are easily swayed. I don't like it, and I'd guess, you don't either, but it's a fact.
Just because someone is young & naive doesn't mean I don't want to see him at LSU. That's a large part of why LSU is supposed to be here - to help them get wiser.
A 'recruiting board' on the internet, in and of itself, is fraught with peril. Recruits will see good things - they'll love that. They'll see bad things, LSU fans don't like that. It's a fine line. Obviously, here, the powers to be have chosen the side of the recruiting line they're OK with for LSU.
FWIW, I'm glad they have this board. I read this board a lot. The info is great. And, to the makers' benefit, this board is much more policed than the others. But undoubtedly, a board like this carries a risk.
LSU fans ain't like Harvard fans, nor do they claim to be. LSU will introduce a potential student/athlete to new things (hopefully, more good than bad). The recruiting board is just the beginning.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 10:19 pm to bosonsrule
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if not, i dont think it's some sort of huge insults to say that you dont think a recruit is LSU material and state the reasons why not every recruit that is mentioned on this board is LSU material
if a recruit makes his decision based upon a message board, then i dont want that flake on my squad anyway
I've said that a few kids weren't SEC material, but that's not degrading language. There's a difference in talking about a players pluses and negatives and being inappropriate.
As far as saying a kid makes his decision based on a message board is a little far fetched, but if he's having trouble in deciding between two and this board is slamming him b/c he only has a 35 in vertical and runs a 4.6 he will lean toward the other team.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 10:48 pm to Keys Open Doors
Armand Williams mentioned something about reading message boards. Some poster said that there was a coach from another SEC school printing out stuff from here and showing it to recruits to try to convince them our fans don't support the players.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 10:53 pm to Sir Barkevious
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our fans don't support the players.
We support our players as well if not better than any fan base in the country. That said, we do expect LSU players to earn a pat on the back.
Posted on 2/15/10 at 10:54 pm to Sir Barkevious
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Some poster said
I can't do better than this.
Posted on 2/16/10 at 11:46 am to bosonsrule
How can a kid possibly handle the stress of playing in the SEC if he cares about what some morons say on a message board? On our radio show, we have interviewed 4 kids that we asked point blank if they read the message boards. 3 of the 4 said no and only one seemed to act like he cared what was said about him.
Some of you guys must not understand the stress that goes into being recruited to a school like LSU. The coaches put these kids through hell and only the mentally tough survive. Message boards are the last things on their minds.
Some of you guys must not understand the stress that goes into being recruited to a school like LSU. The coaches put these kids through hell and only the mentally tough survive. Message boards are the last things on their minds.
Posted on 2/16/10 at 4:29 pm to Slightly Sly
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Before making any assumptions about LSU fans and this site, please read in entirety. Please realize that there are no rules in place to prevent a rival school poster from signing up to this website and posing as an LSU fan. Also, there is no rule specifying an age limit for posting privleges. This site seems based on freedom of speech. It is a double edged sword. You will have some people who will be unrealistically positive and spin all for good, and you will have some who will be unrealistically negative and spin all for bad. There are also people on here who will post anything to get attention, and should not be taken seriously. That being said, there are a good portion of fair, level-headed, respectable posters who are actually true Tiger Fans. We often get very upset at some of the terrible comments made on this site, but that is its nature. There is a freedom here that is not given on many other boards. This is good for business, and site traffic, but sometimes leads to a skewed view of the true LSU fanbase. If you are considering attending our University as either a student, or a scholarship athlete of any sport, it would be wise to take what I am saying into consideration before you step foot onto campus. Every university has its share of negative fans, and bandwagoners. Every university has fans who have never even visited the university nor attended it. Please do not make your decision based on the words of some anonymous strangers. Make them with your family, in regards to what is best for your future, and with your heart. Lastly, on behalf of the true Tiger fans, we do not bash anyone who becomes a Tiger; we welcome you as family. We look out for and respect anyone who represents the Tiger fan base well.
Thank you. Wonderful post. Perfect.
Posted on 2/17/10 at 8:05 am to jimmyd
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Bashing a coach
This is what became a really big problem all of last season and up to NSD. This is what is totally inappropriate on a "recruiting" board.
Discussing recruits pluses and minuses hasn't been a problem except for the instances where the Miles/Crowton/coach bashers got involved.
The hurtful recruit discussions were being led by the coach bashers. The coach bashers did not have hurting the recruits on their minds, the recruits were just collateral damage in their bombing of the coaching staff. They basically would say anything, anywhere if they thought it would help bring about the demise of M/C/c.
These guys are so anti-M/C/c that they want to bring down the program short term just to get rid of the status quo. If it takes damaging our recruiting classes but they get rid of M/C/c, they will be happy.
I know it is the most overused phrase on here but it is the truth-they need to stay on the Rant.
Posted on 2/17/10 at 9:27 am to chinese58
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This is what became a really big problem all of last season and up to NSD. This is what is totally inappropriate on a "recruiting" board.
Discussing recruits pluses and minuses hasn't been a problem except for the instances where the Miles/Crowton/coach bashers got involved.
The hurtful recruit discussions were being led by the coach bashers. The coach bashers did not have hurting the recruits on their minds, the recruits were just collateral damage in their bombing of the coaching staff. They basically would say anything, anywhere if they thought it would help bring about the demise of M/C/c.
These guys are so anti-M/C/c that they want to bring down the program short term just to get rid of the status quo. If it takes damaging our recruiting classes but they get rid of M/C/c, they will be happy.
I know it is the most overused phrase on here but it is the truth-they need to stay on the Rant.
I agree with this 100%. I think posters here do a good job of being objective. If anything, we overinflate these kids. Remember how Keiland Williams was going to win a Heisman and how Terrance Toliver was going to be the next Randy Moss? A rarified few (e.g., Patrick Peterson) turn out as well as we all think when they sign and we
That being said, this past recruiting season was awful because you had a faction of the Board who were driven to fan-insanity by their disillusionment with Miles and Crowton. Two years removed from a BCS title, Lesticles and the Wizard were persona non gratis. Now, most rational fans were displeased with the past two seasons and want to see improvement next year. But a very vocal minority would have you believe that the sun would not rise if we didn't purge the staff STAT! And these irrational, drama queens infected the Rant and this board with a stench of negativity. In Spiro Agnew's words: Nattering Nabobs of Negativity.
That is the type of shite that coaches of other schools use against LSU. That's the type of shite that makes a recruit who didn't grow up dreaming to play at LSU think there may be trouble in paradise. That's the shite that hurts our football program. And the Nabobs will deny it and flame at you for suggesting it because above all else, they MUST make sure everyone knows that THEY do not like Les Miles and that he is evil. In doing so, they put their 30 seconds of cathartic typing above the interests of the LSU football program. And--I'm with jimmyd on this--we should shout them down each time they do going forward.
This post was edited on 2/17/10 at 9:31 am
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