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re: Miles recruiting prowess

Posted on 2/1/10 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/1/10 at 1:45 pm to
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Billy Cannon wouldn't have been able to run behind our O-Line. The O-Line and the coaching of same was the problem. I read in the paper that Stud told Miles he was going to worker harder next year. What did he do this year, sit on his butt? Based on some of the selected starters and their performance, one has to assume he sat on his butt. No excuse for the poor O-Line performance. The blame is squarely on Stud.




The entirety of LSU's offensive problems cannot be blamed on Stud, though it was a huge problem. Doesn't warm my heart to know the same staff sans McCartney and Porter is back.

RP would have never been an issue had LSU recruited and stocked ample backups. I still think while recruiting under Miles is stellar as far as talent, the need hasn't totally been addressed. Offensive line and defensive line, QB all have been, still are thin. Next year LSU will be deeper at all positions, so will see how that translates. I think after 2010 the origins of the problems will be obvious.
This post was edited on 2/1/10 at 1:52 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261575 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 1:53 pm to
Yeah, my brother was a major college football and baseball recruit, as well as mid level basketball recruit. But, it was a different era.
Posted by TigerCard
Cleveland, OH
Member since Nov 2009
894 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 1:53 pm to
Billy Cannon wouldn't have been able to run behind our O-Line. The O-Line and the coaching of same was the problem. I read in the paper that Stud told Miles he was going to worker harder next year. What did he do this year, sit on his butt? Based on some of the selected starters and their performance, one has to assume he sat on his butt. No excuse for the poor O-Line performance. The blame is squarely on Stud.
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I agree that the O-line was the major problem last year. I wondered all season whether the problem was coaching, talent, or scheme. (I read an article by Rosetta in the Advocate that contended that Crowton's scheme might have been too complicated, not only for Jefferson, but for the line as well.) I STILL don't know what to think about the line. Based on what I've seen Miles do with assistants, though, I would suspect that he knows what the problem was and will get it fixed this year. I'm sure that if he was convinced that Stud was indeed the problem, he would have let him go. So maybe the problem lies elsewhere...or perhaps Miles is giving him one more year to get the line fixed. But, in any case, I'll be REAL curious to see how the line is next year. I know one thing, however...no o-line, no offense.
Posted by ThirdAndChavis1234
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/1/10 at 1:55 pm to
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Posted by TigerCard
Cleveland, OH
Member since Nov 2009
894 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 1:59 pm to
RP would have never been an issue had LSU recruited and stocked ample backups. I still think while recruiting under Miles is stellar as far as talent, the need hasn't totally been addressed. Offensive line and defensive line, QB all have been, still are thin. Next year LSU will be deeper at all positions, so will see how that translates. I think after 2010 the origins of the problems will be obvious.
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But as I pointed out, the problems caused by losing Perrilloux were not due to what happened AFTER him, but BEFORE him. We've got Jefferson and Lee (who I think could still be a good QB, if his head isn't too messed up by what happened his first year), and I believe we redshirted a QB this past year. That gives us three scholarship QBs. And we signed one of the top pro-style QBs in the country this year. So I think we're close to getting over the effects of Perrilloux being the only QB signed in at least two years (if not three...I don't remember exactly). Again, that falls on Saban.
Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 2:06 pm to
can someone move this to the Tiger Rant?? all this shiet aint worth reading
Posted by TigerCard
Cleveland, OH
Member since Nov 2009
894 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 2:19 pm to
Your wrong MF. We'll see at the end of next season who's right. Miles and the staff will be gone, yet LSU will be able to maintain the 2011 in-state recruits because its LSU, its the fricking state university. You don't know what the frick is going on.
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One more piece of evidence for you... I just read a story on Rivals about the biggest recruiting disappointments of 2010. Colorado (signed NONE of the top 10 in the state), Illinois (signed 1 of the top 10 in the state), Rutgers (signed 1 of the top 10 in the state). As I said, elite recruits don't necessarily fall all over themselves to go to the state school, esp. if that school is losing.
Posted by 7 Moves
Chicago
Member since Sep 2009
2613 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 2:39 pm to
LSU has an advantage in La. as do most of the state schools with their top recruits. The differences are keeping the A players in state, which until Dinardo, Saban, and Miles sealed the borders, we were losing many of the Reggie Waynes, Ed Reeds, Warrick Dunns, and other like them. The second issue is regional recruiting in TX, MS, AL, FL, GA, and TN. This is where Les has done well and is not it's LSU because it's LSU. I do think that we need to be VERY selective with far away kids and really stick to the SE and SW regions in our offers.
Posted by ShoNuff
coushatta
Member since Jan 2010
105 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 2:59 pm to
Dont comapre the state of Louisiana to Illinois, or Colorado. People here, hs kids included are much more passionate about their state school than those other places. Basically the whole state is a LSU rabid fanbase, with the exception of a few small pockets where there is other colleges.
Posted by redstick56
Cade
Member since Jan 2006
273 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:00 pm to
take that you negatigers!
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2810 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:02 pm to
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Its LSU, it aint that hard to recruit to LSU. Regardless of who the coach is, we will always get the majority of in-state talent, this has little to do with Miles


Mike Archer and Curley Hallman call BS on that.
Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:04 pm to
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Dont comapre the state of Louisiana to Illinois, or Colorado. People here, hs kids included are much more passionate about their state school than those other places. Basically the whole state is a LSU rabid fanbase, with the exception of a few small pockets where there is other colleges.

that's from your point of view as a FAN and not a PLAYER
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2810 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:05 pm to
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Saban used Dinardo's recruits to establish a base to build upon


Just as Arnsparger did with Stovall's RS group, yet no one ever gives them the credit
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68926 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:05 pm to
Crowotn was banking on rp really bad. neither of our other qbs were prepared to play, and still are not. Lets hope experience and a new wr coach can help out the qbs
Posted by ShoNuff
coushatta
Member since Jan 2010
105 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:16 pm to
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that's from your point of view as a FAN and not a PLAYER


So you think some of the 2011 studs we have like Collins, Hillard and Landry are coming here because of Les. Highly unlikely. They are coming here because of LSU, not Miles, and any LSU coach would more than likely get those kids to commit here. Miles is known to be an OL coach, yet has produced one of the worst OL's in the SEC, so again, I doubt Collins or any other in-state lineman is lining up to play for Miles. LSU is going to get LA. kids with any coach. Miles the best LSU can do, recruiting wise or wins/losses wise.
Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:19 pm to
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So you think some of the 2011 studs we have like Collins, Hillard and Landry are coming here because of Les. Highly unlikely. They are coming here because of LSU, not Miles, and any LSU coach would more than likely get those kids to commit here. Miles is known to be an OL coach, yet has produced one of the worst OL's in the SEC, so again, I doubt Collins or any other in-state lineman is lining up to play for Miles. LSU is going to get LA. kids with any coach. Miles the best LSU can do, recruiting wise or wins/losses wise.

you're an idiot and stop posting, your opinions isnt accepted as facts
Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:20 pm to
and what's so great about Baton Rouge? please answer that question before you post something stupid again
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:27 pm to
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Miles recruiting prowess
Its LSU, it aint that hard to recruit to LSU. Regardless of who the coach is, we will always get the majority of in-state talent, this has little to do with Miles. You also better have assistants who can recruit, because thats who's doing all the work, establishing relationships, etc. The head coaches just get the credit.


You are an idiot. Just ask the fans at USC, Texas, and here in BR how easy it was when none of them were winning games or recruiting battles.
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2810 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:29 pm to
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LSU is going to get LA. kids with any coach


Obviously you were not around in the 1980's or 90's. Why aren't you in school today, or are you posting at recess?
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11446 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 3:36 pm to
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So you think some of the 2011 studs we have like Collins, Hillard and Landry are coming here because of Les. Highly unlikely. They are coming here because of LSU, not Miles, and any LSU coach would more than likely get those kids to commit here. Miles is known to be an OL coach, yet has produced one of the worst OL's in the SEC, so again, I doubt Collins or any other in-state lineman is lining up to play for Miles. LSU is going to get LA. kids with any coach. Miles the best LSU can do, recruiting wise or wins/losses wise.


Holy crap! You're dumber than a sack of rocks!

Can we get a ban on isle 3?
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