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Mel Kiper's Summary on Saints
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:48 pm
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The pick of Odrick isn't supposed to be a statement, an admittance that Sedrick Ellis was a bad pick two years ago. The bottom line is that Odrick is a great value.
The Saints will need to continue to improve against the run and extremely talented interior linemen like Odrick that can let your LBs run free are guys you can't have enough of.
Weatherspoon and Lee are both guys that would have to fall, but either could be a second-round home run. A great safety value could be an option, or a guy like McCluster, who Sean Payton could do a lot with if, for some unlikely reason, Reggie Bush ends up elsewhere.
Is he calling ellis a bust? Really?
The rest of the article is for y'all to enjoy
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Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:51 pm to Naturally Nawlins
Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I think he's saying that by picking another DT it would not necessarily be admitting that Ellis is a bust. Just that there's great value at getting another DT at that spot.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:52 pm to Deactived
I think he is saying not to read into it that way. He is saying the Saints would pick him because he is great value, don't think they are picking him because Big Sed was a mistake.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:53 pm to Naturally Nawlins
eh, no rational person can say that Ellis has performed like they hoped the #7 overall pick would. Now, if he can ever stay healthy it MIGHT be a different story.
but, too early to say bust.
but, too early to say bust.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:53 pm to Naturally Nawlins
I think he is saying that picking another DT is NOT an admittance that Ellis was a bad pick, but that the best value on the board when the Saints pick is this DT.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:53 pm to King9274
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I think he is saying not to read into it that way. He is saying the Saints would pick him because he is great value, don't think they are picking him because Big Sed was a mistake.
also correct.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:53 pm to King9274
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I think he is saying not to read into it that way. He is saying the Saints would pick him because he is great value, don't think they are picking him because Big Sed was a mistake.
THIS. When I first read it the other day I thought he was calling hiim a bust, but upon re-reading it I got what he meant. Awkward sentence structure.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:55 pm to Naturally Nawlins
I bet the Chiefs wish they had drafted Ellis.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:55 pm to Naturally Nawlins
quote:
Is he calling ellis a bust? Really?
As others have said, my read is that he is saying the opposite.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:56 pm to Solo
Yeah after reading it again I see what he means now. Terrible wording regardless.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:57 pm to Naturally Nawlins
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Is he calling ellis a bust? Really?
No. Not really. Reading comprehension, man.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:59 pm to noladan
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Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I think he's saying that by picking another DT it would not necessarily be admitting that Ellis is a bust. Just that there's great value at getting another DT at that spot.
You're not wrong.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 1:59 pm to Solo
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I bet the Chiefs wish they had drafted Ellis.
why?
Posted on 1/29/10 at 2:01 pm to el tigre
bad sentence structure, but what everybody has said above lol
Posted on 1/29/10 at 2:03 pm to Naturally Nawlins
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admittance
huh?
Posted on 1/29/10 at 2:03 pm to el tigre
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why?
Because that means they would have passed on Dorsey.
Posted on 1/29/10 at 2:07 pm to Solo
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Because that means they would have passed on Dorsey.
and have a guy that with less than half the career total tackles and can't stay healthy?
Posted on 1/29/10 at 2:14 pm to el tigre
Tackles are the most BS stat in sports.
GD has never and will never command a double team. Ellis has had injury problems, but at least he keeps Vilma clean and colapses a pocket.
I expect more from you.
ETA: Ghazi would argue that CP3's assists at home are the most BS stat in sports, but that's neither here nor there.
GD has never and will never command a double team. Ellis has had injury problems, but at least he keeps Vilma clean and colapses a pocket.
I expect more from you.
ETA: Ghazi would argue that CP3's assists at home are the most BS stat in sports, but that's neither here nor there.
This post was edited on 1/29/10 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 1/29/10 at 2:15 pm to Solo
Ellis isn't a bust. it's not about tackles, it's what he does with the pocket and the space he occupies. He does a good job with that.
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