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Will LSU be able to Run the Ball?
Posted on 12/8/09 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 12/8/09 at 8:48 pm
I am looking at LSU stats at the moment and I am wondering do LSU fans believe they will be able to effectively run the ball.
Against Ole Miss they managed only 40 Yards on 27 attempts.
I understand that is misleading based on Jefferson 9 Carries -32 Yards though.
Even without those numbers or Williams (who is now out for season) you have
Ridley- 1 carry 12 Yards
Shepard- 6 carries 20 Yards
Against Arkansas the LSU running game improved after what looks like they used Trindon Holliday more.
Shepard and Ridley however combined for 18 Carries 57 Yards.
I do believe the Penn State defensive line can be into the LSU backfield and stop the runner at the point of attack. I understand from reading this site that the OL is a point of weakness for the LSU Tigers.
Do LSU fans believe your Offensive Coordinator Gary Crowton will utilize Holliday enough to put his "all-world" speed on display? His best game was Arkansas when he had 9 carries, other than that his numbers look really average. Also, what is the most effective play LSU runs with Holliday?
Will Shepard get utilized? I mean he was #1 Recruit by some publications but he has only touched the ball 50 times in the 722 plays LSU has run as an offense.
As I said earlier in a thread, I do not follow LSU closely, most of my observations are based on games on TV and what I have read on this site past 2 days. So any information I have that is incorrect I am sorry for.
Against Ole Miss they managed only 40 Yards on 27 attempts.
I understand that is misleading based on Jefferson 9 Carries -32 Yards though.
Even without those numbers or Williams (who is now out for season) you have
Ridley- 1 carry 12 Yards
Shepard- 6 carries 20 Yards
Against Arkansas the LSU running game improved after what looks like they used Trindon Holliday more.
Shepard and Ridley however combined for 18 Carries 57 Yards.
I do believe the Penn State defensive line can be into the LSU backfield and stop the runner at the point of attack. I understand from reading this site that the OL is a point of weakness for the LSU Tigers.
Do LSU fans believe your Offensive Coordinator Gary Crowton will utilize Holliday enough to put his "all-world" speed on display? His best game was Arkansas when he had 9 carries, other than that his numbers look really average. Also, what is the most effective play LSU runs with Holliday?
Will Shepard get utilized? I mean he was #1 Recruit by some publications but he has only touched the ball 50 times in the 722 plays LSU has run as an offense.
As I said earlier in a thread, I do not follow LSU closely, most of my observations are based on games on TV and what I have read on this site past 2 days. So any information I have that is incorrect I am sorry for.
This post was edited on 12/8/09 at 8:49 pm
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 8:48 pm to PennState
will penn st. be able to stop trindon from taking it to the house of the opening kick off that is the question
Posted on 12/8/09 at 8:51 pm to PennState
We haven't been able to run the ball all year, why should this game be any different?
Posted on 12/8/09 at 8:57 pm to PennState
LSU will be able to run the ball. Either Ridley or Shepard will tear off a 12-20 yard gain then Crowton will call the following:
1st and 10: Jefferson 7 step straight dropback to pass. Sets feet and gets sacked for 8 yard loss.
2nd and 18: Ridley end around to short side for 3 yard loss.
3rd and 21: Play action pass, Jefferson rolls out and throws it out of bounds.
4th and 21: Punt.
Next series:
1st and 10: Jefferson 7 step straight dropback to pass. Sets feet and gets sacked for 8 yard loss.
2nd and 18: Ridley end around to short side for 3 yard loss.
3rd and 21: Play action pass, Jefferson rolls out and throws it out of bounds.
4th and 21: Punt.
Nest series:
1st and 10: Ridley up the middle for 12 yard gain.
1st and 10: Jefferson 7 step straight dropback to pass. Sets feet and gets sacked for 8 yard loss.
2nd and 18: Ridley end around to short side for 3 yard loss.
3rd and 21: Play action pass, Jefferson rolls out and throws it out of bounds.
4th and 21: Punt.
1st and 10: Jefferson 7 step straight dropback to pass. Sets feet and gets sacked for 8 yard loss.
2nd and 18: Ridley end around to short side for 3 yard loss.
3rd and 21: Play action pass, Jefferson rolls out and throws it out of bounds.
4th and 21: Punt.
Next series:
1st and 10: Jefferson 7 step straight dropback to pass. Sets feet and gets sacked for 8 yard loss.
2nd and 18: Ridley end around to short side for 3 yard loss.
3rd and 21: Play action pass, Jefferson rolls out and throws it out of bounds.
4th and 21: Punt.
Nest series:
1st and 10: Ridley up the middle for 12 yard gain.
1st and 10: Jefferson 7 step straight dropback to pass. Sets feet and gets sacked for 8 yard loss.
2nd and 18: Ridley end around to short side for 3 yard loss.
3rd and 21: Play action pass, Jefferson rolls out and throws it out of bounds.
4th and 21: Punt.
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:05 pm to PennState
I hope GC pulls his head out of his arse and starts using the LSU talent correct. But we are talking about an OC that on the Ole Miss 32 threw 3 fricking passes!!!!!!! I wouldnt count on the LSU offense running shite.
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:06 pm to PennState
To answer the question, in an intelligent manner, would require knowledge of Penn State's defense.
How does its D-line compare to Bama's? Linebackers to Florida's or Bama's? Secondary to Florida's?
Is PSU's defense big, strong, and fast?
Or just big and strong, e.g., tOSU?
LSU's biggest problem, besides having a dumb "Michigan Man" as head coach, is poor quarterback play. Jefferson couldn't find his arse with both hands, much less a wide open receiver. Opposing teams stack the box and beg Jefferson to attempt a pass, especially in the pocket, as opposed to a roll-out or run-pass option. LSU's coaches are calling plays like Jefferson is Drew Brees.
It's like polishing a turd.
LSU is EASY to defend and easily could have lost to Miss. State, Georgia, and Arkansas. If my math is right, that would result in a 6-6 record.
But, from what I hear, PSU's QB is pretty shitty himself.
How does its D-line compare to Bama's? Linebackers to Florida's or Bama's? Secondary to Florida's?
Is PSU's defense big, strong, and fast?
Or just big and strong, e.g., tOSU?
LSU's biggest problem, besides having a dumb "Michigan Man" as head coach, is poor quarterback play. Jefferson couldn't find his arse with both hands, much less a wide open receiver. Opposing teams stack the box and beg Jefferson to attempt a pass, especially in the pocket, as opposed to a roll-out or run-pass option. LSU's coaches are calling plays like Jefferson is Drew Brees.
It's like polishing a turd.
LSU is EASY to defend and easily could have lost to Miss. State, Georgia, and Arkansas. If my math is right, that would result in a 6-6 record.
But, from what I hear, PSU's QB is pretty shitty himself.
This post was edited on 12/8/09 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:20 pm to PennState
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I am looking at LSU stats at the moment and I am wondering do LSU fans believe they will be able to effectively run the ball.
Remember, those are stats against SEC defenses, recognized to be among the best in the country.
UDub also wound up winning 5 games this year & was not the pushover some expected.
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Do LSU fans believe your Offensive Coordinator Gary Crowton will utilize Holliday enough to put his "all-world" speed on display? His best game was Arkansas when he had 9 carries, other than that his numbers look really average. Also, what is the most effective play LSU runs with Holliday?
Don't forget that Shep can't get through the line in a hurry, & will likely get more touches in the bowl game in preparation for what should be his coming out in 2010. He was a true FR & Miles tends to play very few of those.
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:16 pm to PennState
yes they will. If Shep gets a significant # of touches he will run all over Penn D, but i also think we will be able to throw the ball well despite Jordan Jefferson. Recievers are too big, too fast.
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:26 pm to PennState
You've done a good job of identifying LSU's weakness. The offensive line has been very poor.
However, it is this weakness that makes this a pickem type of game. If LSU were able to run the ball effectively, LSU would win by 14+ points.
I don't see Penn St. scoring very many points. And, in spite of our OL, LSU's offense will still present a fair amount of problems for Penn St.
In the end (assuming that LSU doesn't shore up it's major weakness), this is going to be a close game, IMO.
However, it is this weakness that makes this a pickem type of game. If LSU were able to run the ball effectively, LSU would win by 14+ points.
I don't see Penn St. scoring very many points. And, in spite of our OL, LSU's offense will still present a fair amount of problems for Penn St.
In the end (assuming that LSU doesn't shore up it's major weakness), this is going to be a close game, IMO.
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:36 pm to PennState
Jordan Jefferson will be fully healthy and I think he alone will rush for over 50 yards.
LSU fans are by and large morons, so they don't grasp that JJ has mastered the pocket and only struggled with sacks, lack of rushing yardage late in the season become of his injury.
LSU fans are by and large morons, so they don't grasp that JJ has mastered the pocket and only struggled with sacks, lack of rushing yardage late in the season become of his injury.
Posted on 12/8/09 at 11:40 pm to PennState
quote:
Will LSU be able to Run the Ball?
Of course not, but we will still win.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 7:31 am to PennState
Last time I checked you played in the Big 10. LSU as bad as they looked sometimes would have won the Big 10 with ease.
The real question will be:
Will LSU be up for playing another lesser opponent from the Big 10?
The real question will be:
Will LSU be up for playing another lesser opponent from the Big 10?
Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:40 am to PennState
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Will LSU be able to Run the Ball?
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I understand from reading this site that the OL is a point of weakness for the LSU Tigers.
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Will Shepard get utilized?
Posted on 12/9/09 at 10:25 am to PennState
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Do LSU fans believe your Offensive Coordinator Gary Crowton will utilize Holliday enough to put his "all-world" speed on display?
no.
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Also, what is the most effective play LSU runs with Holliday?
the kick off return play.
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Will Shepard get utilized?
more than likely not.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:17 am to PennState
I would think that the tigers will be more dangerous. The soph running back is good and Trindon is dynamite the more touches he gets which in the past has been far few.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:40 am to PennState
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Will Shepard get utilized? I mean he was #1 Recruit by some publications but he has only touched the ball 50 times in the 722 plays LSU has run as an offense.
:banghead: 
That stat just ruined my day.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:43 am to PennState
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Against Arkansas the LSU running game improved after what looks like they used Trindon Holliday more.
This is a little misleading since we stopped using Trindon once we realized he was having a great game.
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Do LSU fans believe your Offensive Coordinator Gary Crowton will utilize Holliday enough to put his "all-world" speed on display?
No, hasn't been done all year. And the one game where Holliday's speed is too much for the defense, we bench him.
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Will Shepard get utilized? I mean he was #1 Recruit by some publications but he has only touched the ball 50 times in the 722 plays LSU has run as an offense.
That is terrible. Shepard will get 3 carries in the 1st quarter, keep a few drives going then you'll forget he is on the team.
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So any information I have that is incorrect I am sorry for.
Nah you're pretty much spot on. We do too much on offense, we stop doing what's working besides making the defense stop it. And we try things that haven't worked all year. We also discovered screen passes and using Holliday effectively the last two games of the year.
However this is a bowl game, Miles is a completley different coach during a bowl game.
This post was edited on 12/9/09 at 11:52 am
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:00 pm to PennState
anyone else wonder what this alter is setting the rant up for?
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