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Either give us a playoff - or return to the old system.

Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:38 am
Posted by MisterLuce
Member since Nov 2009
759 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:38 am
The BCS sucks. I like that LSU has won it twice but its really just a coincidence its worked out in our favor.

Either bring back the old system where there is no collective effort to match #1 and #2 - and everyone argues who the real #1 is at the end of the year - but some years by magical coincidence #1 and #2 wind up in the same bowl and its awesome.


Or give us a playoff. One of reasonable size. Not too big. Like 8 teams.



The BCS is a bastard child of a playoff and the old "every bowl for itself" tradition - and its ugly as hell.

This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 11:39 am
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
10122 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:41 am to
I don't know why anyone would prefer the old system over the BCS.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:42 am to
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Either give us a playoff - or return to the old system.

great idea without any merit

the BCS is teh best title-determination system in american sports

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Not too big. Like 8 teams

8 teams is generally 5-6 teams too many
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:43 am to
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The BCS is a bastard child of a playoff and the old "every bowl for itself" tradition - and its ugly as hell.

and it's fricking effective. it has always crowned the best team as champion. there is only a real debate in 1 year (2003)

why do people hate such a precise system?
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16692 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:47 am to
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why do people hate such a precise system?


I have yet to see a playoff format that everone can agree upon. I think the BCS is the best way.....and people DO NOT get that it generates more interest than ever imagined.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:51 am to
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I have yet to see a playoff format that everone can agree upon.

because their argument shifts and is molded around "inclusive" arguments, however they lose sight of the reason for a title-determination. plus they realize people will bitch even with 8 teams
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 11:52 am
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40944 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:52 am to
Did your parents have any kids that lived?

So you would prefer 1984 when BYU won a MNC by beating a 6-5 Michigan team?

LSU would not have won the 2003 or 2007 MNC without the BCS.

Are you 11? Do you even remember what it was like before the BCS or hell just go back to before the Rose Bowl joined the BCS.

I am not saying a playoff wouldn't be nice but to go back to pre BCS is just stupid and shows you have no clue about history.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:53 am to
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the BCS is teh best title-determination system in american sports
It's about equal as far as absurdity. At least in the other sports, you can't go undefeated and get squat and you definitely can't have three teams do that in one season.
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 11:55 am
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47135 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:55 am to
div 1a college football postseason is terrible. always has been. its all about money.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:56 am to
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At least in the other sports, you can't go undefeated and get squat and you definitely can't have three teams do that in one season.

shite don't bring up equality with other systems

shall i remind you about the pats in 2008 or many western conference teams in the NBA every year?
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40944 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 11:59 am to
Squat? TCU and Boise are set to make more from their BCS payout than the programs would have made in 10 years of non bcs bowls.

Squat? I think not. More like you know squat.
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16692 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 12:00 pm to
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Did your parents have any kids that lived?

So you would prefer 1984 when BYU won a MNC by beating a 6-5 Michigan team? LSU would not have won the 2003 or 2007 MNC without the BCS.

Are you 11? Do you even remember what it was like before the BCS or hell just go back to before the Rose Bowl joined the BCS.

I am not saying a playoff wouldn't be nice but to go back to pre BCS is just stupid and shows you have no clue about history.



Can you read?????? Where do I say I liked the old system better? I state that I like the BCS. I also state that a playoff system cannot be agreed upon.

Epic FAIL
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 12:02 pm to
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Squat? TCU and Boise are set to make more from their BCS payout than the programs would have made in 10 years of non bcs bowls.
Wow. You're awesome.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40944 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 12:02 pm to
BBA,

I wasn't talking to you. That was directed at the original post.
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16692 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 12:04 pm to
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TigerMyth36


Got it. It wasn't in sequence.

Don't talk about my momma.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40944 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 12:11 pm to
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Wow. You're awesome.


What a snappy comeback. Sure put me in my place.

How about you figure out which bowl they would have been in and see if it is not 10X lower payout than what they will be making in the BCS bowl?

Then come back with an even snappier comeback.


Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60681 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 12:47 pm to
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or return to the old system.


frick
That

The BCS >*1Trillion the old system.

quote:

everyone argues who the real #1


no, LSU fans in 2003, OU and Auburn fans in 04, Texas fans in 05 and Several people in 07 gripe about USC being #1 again, no one is really "arguing".
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60681 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 12:48 pm to
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At least in college football, you can't have a crappy/medicore season and still win the title or beat a team 2,3 times but still have to play them again in the playoffs
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20994 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:28 pm to
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I don't know why anyone would prefer the old system over the BCS


+ a whole lot
Posted by Rockerbraves
Greatest Nation on Earth
Member since Feb 2007
8015 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:33 pm to
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I don't know why anyone would prefer the old system over the BCS.
USC would love to have back the old system. Now they often have to share the Big 10 champion.
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