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re: So Saban will Dominate the SEC.....
Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:57 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:57 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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One game does not a season make, and moral victories in rivalry games mean nothing..
So are you saying for Alabama, a win is a win is a win? Regardless of what they looked like and how close the game was at the end?
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Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:57 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Too much for them to overcome next year. They add Florida and Penn State to their schedule and every SEC team except Arkansas has an off week before playing them.
If he wins 10 games next year, I say we just make him the Governor. Enjoy the moment!
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:02 pm to Prominentwon
People like to think LSU was in a much worse state than Bama was when he took over... so going 24-0 the past 2 regular seasons means there is no turning back. He should also be excused for the UAB and ULM losses because they were his first yr as the coach.
Then there is the logic that shula must be crap and didnt bring any talent to bama. It was all Saban. Well LSU had NFL talent on it's team before he got here and still he couldnt do this at LSU. With this logic then there really is no hope. If the great saban could only bring us to one 1 loss season, then what coach can do better?
Then there is the logic that shula must be crap and didnt bring any talent to bama. It was all Saban. Well LSU had NFL talent on it's team before he got here and still he couldnt do this at LSU. With this logic then there really is no hope. If the great saban could only bring us to one 1 loss season, then what coach can do better?
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:03 pm to prplngldtigr
Look, you guys are spinning.
Until "SENSE OF URGENCY" & "MINUTIAL INSTRUCTION" & "WELL DEVELOPED IDENTITY" return to LSU Football..
What we've seen the last two years isn't gonna change.
I think it can with proper changes within this staff and program mindset, but until then, what you see is what you get.
Until "SENSE OF URGENCY" & "MINUTIAL INSTRUCTION" & "WELL DEVELOPED IDENTITY" return to LSU Football..
What we've seen the last two years isn't gonna change.
I think it can with proper changes within this staff and program mindset, but until then, what you see is what you get.
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:03 pm to TigerPanzer
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Saban will create a Thousand Year Football Reich at Bama. All other SEC teams will wither away under the force of his mighty legions, and no SEC team will be able to compete with him for the next millennium.
This is why I love the Rant - I laughed my arse off.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:10 pm to Prominentwon
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So are you saying for Alabama, a win is a win is a win? Regardless of what they looked like and how close the game was at the end?
In Bama's case, more so than LSU's, over the last two years. Because in showing sense of urgency, willpower to dominate, and in putting away a majority of their opponents, they've earned that right to be a bit less questioned.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:12 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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What we've seen the last two years isn't gonna change
Why do you pick out what you want to make your point instead of looking at the whole body of work?
He looks like he could be on the verge of finishing with 4 top 10 finishes in his first 5 years. People who are upset with that shite are just dumb. He has shown he makes changes and strives to get better, but no one gives any credit when he does right.
I bet he is easily gets the most unwarrranted criticism of any big time coach in the country.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:13 pm to lsutiger2486
Process vs Results
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:15 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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In Bama's case, more so than LSU's, over the last two years. Because in showing sense of urgency, willpower to dominate, and in putting away a majority of their opponents, they've earned that right to be a bit less questioned.
There was none of that in Miles trips to the SECG's and NCG's?
I mean, he just doesn't care? He just forgot how to do so?
My final post in this thread...
As Jordan Jefferson grows, so does this team. The bottom line is that Les Miles job is hinging on Jordan Jefferson and his success or failure. A football team goes as the QB goes. LSU has the defense to stop teams but just needs to improve on the offense.
If you don't think that the LSU offense hasn't played like there's a 19 year QB behind center, then you're digging way too deep. The issue is staring right back at you.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:20 pm to Prominentwon
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So Saban will Dominate the SEC.....
for years to come.
Why didn't he do so at LSU?
That's what he was building at LSU.
This is really really really DUMB!
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:24 pm to Prominentwon
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There was none of that in Miles trips to the SECG's and NCG's?
There was plenty in 2007, and yet still not as much as there should've been. Do you forget how many teams that year took a 7-0 lead vs LSU? An LSU team that was preseason #2, and clearly the best and most talented team in country by quite a bit..yet fell behind almost weekly.
The 2006 team was a BCS Champ quite possibly left on the table for Fla's taking. At minimum, that team was a 1 loss heading into a rematch on neutral field Ga Dome vs Fla material LSU squad, if handled better. A team that scouts, oddsmakers,etc..all hailed as good or better than Fla, yet with two losses and out of the BCS race not even half-way into the 2006 season.
As for the 2008/2009 green QBs argument, I'll agree to an extent, yet that doesn't alibi as many issues as were present, that fall directly upon the coaching staff.
I had like the majority of fans, LSU going 9-3, with voila the three teams ranked ahead of them in the preseason, losses to Fla, Bama, and Ole Miss.
ST play, Defense under Chavis, and warring 'til the end of the season..all improvements upon 2008.
Trench warfare levels on both the OL and DL for LSU, has been in decline these past two years.
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:25 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Let's see now, he went undefeated in the 2008 regular season in just his second season at the Neanderneck school, then turned around and went undefeated in the regular season again this year, then kicked UF's arse in the SEC Championship game and will probably win the NC in his third year. He did that with a new starting QB and THREE new OL starters in 2009.
Its all about Coaching...quote:I still wake up with night sweats..
Meanwhile LSU goes through the Miles inflicted Mallveto Monster/Gary Crowton inflicted Jarrett Lee debacles in 2008 and follows that up with more massive Crowton offensive dysfunction, (particularly appalling considering the physical talent we have on offense) questionable OL coaching and a few pure "luck out" wins against weak sisters State and R-Kansas. Hey, don't forget about the embarassing end of game Ole Miss brain dead folly, which has national sports broadcasters now referring to time management coaching mistakes as "Pulling a Les Miles."
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Teams tend to mirror the Head Coaches!
Damn Right...There gonna take on his personality...Just like with Saban and Bama...Since when did Bama's D always look nasty and hungry..? Before or after Saban...
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:44 pm to Tiger Khan
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Consider that UF has been hard enough to conquer; now we have to deal with Alabama (again) every year.
I don't get where the worry comes from. We were having to deal with Auburn being the other best team in the west. Now it's Bama. It's just a changing of guard in their own state.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:46 pm to LSUROXS
Saban will dominate, as talent allows him to so.
At LSU, he did not DOMINATE, even if he won an NC.
At LSU, he did not DOMINATE, even if he won an NC.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:54 pm to rbdallas
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Saban will dominate, as talent allows him to so.
I think this applies for any coach.
Which again comes full circle with my "Team goes as the QB goes." theory. There aren't many good teams in the country that has a terrible/mediocre QB. Hell, that's even the case in the NFL. That's just the way it is in football.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:04 pm to Prominentwon
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Which again comes full circle with my "Team goes as the QB goes." theory. There aren't many good teams in the country that has a terrible/mediocre QB.
Sometimes Teams win even with terrible QB play.
How about this for a Championship QB performance.
4-13 28yards 2 INTS
That is what Barker had in the 1992 Sugar Bowl.
But for the most part you are correct. The QB touches the ball the most and when they suck you suck
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:12 pm to Kracka
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Now it's Bama. It's just a changing of guard in their own state.
That's spin and hope.
Auburn even when winning the West and being an LSU thorn under Tubs, split the recruting pie in the state of Alabama.
Saban is grabbing nearly every in-state kid Bama wants since his arrival. Saban is an national recruiter to inifinitely greater degrees than was Tubs, and with a BCS crown in tow soon, his prowess will expand.
Even now, LSU with two or more recruits, trails Bama in total points on Rivals.
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:15 pm to Loserman
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How about this for a Championship QB performance.
4-13 28yards 2 INTS
But for the most part you are correct. The QB touches the ball the most and when they suck you suck
That is what Barker had in the 1992 Sugar Bowl.
I'm talking about the entire year.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:19 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Even now, LSU with two or more recruits, trails Bama in total points on Rivals.
By less than 100 points. That argument doesn't sit well considering that Miles is recruiting just as good as Saban is at Bama.
Before you use the "development" argument, again, go back to me theory.
McElroy has been soaking up info for 4 years now to Jefferson's year and a half.
Honestly, if McElroy was not at Alabama this year, how well do you think they would have fared?
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:25 pm to Prominentwon
I'm not knocking Miles recruiting, it's his best selling point besides his quality family man status, and a byproduct of the same personal attributes.
My comment was to Kracka thinking there isn't much difference between Aub and Bama, or Tubs vs Saban at recruiting.
P.S. Expect a surprise BCS crown title dividends/new recruit player or two for Bama via titles spoils in the next few months. And a spike for next year. Yet, with a top four class or better since his arrival in TTown, player star ratings may be the only area the Bama rankings rise. Sorta like Carroll's USC player ranking, just with better coaching applied.
My comment was to Kracka thinking there isn't much difference between Aub and Bama, or Tubs vs Saban at recruiting.
P.S. Expect a surprise BCS crown title dividends/new recruit player or two for Bama via titles spoils in the next few months. And a spike for next year. Yet, with a top four class or better since his arrival in TTown, player star ratings may be the only area the Bama rankings rise. Sorta like Carroll's USC player ranking, just with better coaching applied.
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 3:51 pm
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