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If unintentional helmet to helmet is going to be 15 yds
Posted on 11/29/09 at 9:51 am
Posted on 11/29/09 at 9:51 am
then not properly securing your helmet should also be 15 yards. Its all about the players safety.
I'm tired of seeing helmets flying around the field because skill players have loosely fitting helmets and don't snap all 4 snaps.
I'm tired of seeing helmets flying around the field because skill players have loosely fitting helmets and don't snap all 4 snaps.
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 9:54 am to Turbeauxdog
It is impossible to determine intent. It was clearly helmet to helmet and the rules say that is a 15 yard penalty.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 9:56 am to VABuckeye
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It is impossible to determine intent. It was clearly helmet to helmet and the rules say that is a 15 yard penalty.
By your definition, over half of all tackles are "helmet to helmet" and should draw penalties. Also, that's not the point of this thread.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 9:56 am to VABuckeye
NOT being ugly but and I understand the concern with concussions and all but how are they to make plays? Do you just say "oh, I can't hit you ... just score and win?" ... take it easy on me ... I'm a girl.
Even Gordy & Charles said let 'em play ball ...
Even Gordy & Charles said let 'em play ball ...
Posted on 11/29/09 at 9:58 am to tiger91
at first I thought it was helmet to helmet also, but in a slo-mo replay you can see Jones lead with his shoulder and hit the other player in the shoulder also.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:00 am to VABuckeye
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It was clearly helmet to helmet and the rules say that is a 15 yard penalty.
I actually think the reaply shows Jones led with his shoulder. My opinion notwithstanding, I don't know how anyone who actually watched that play can say it was "clearly" helmet to helmet. It was anything but clear.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:02 am to clooneyisgod
I can say this, I'm not sure I've ever seen a bigger hit, and both of them get up. Tough guys they are.
I like Chad Jones more all the time, great football player, great baseball player, leaves it all on the field.....every game!
I like Chad Jones more all the time, great football player, great baseball player, leaves it all on the field.....every game!
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:04 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Can it be argued that a looser helmet is safer?
I'm tired of seeing helmets flying around the field because skill players have loosely fitting helmets and don't snap all 4 snaps.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:05 am to tiger91
quote:Disagree completely. The helmet is not a weapon. Basically you're supposed to hit a guy as if no one is wearing helmets. Wrap him up and bring him down. You wouldn't spear a guy if you didn't have a helmet. You wouldn't lead with your head if you didn't have a helmet.
NOT being ugly but and I understand the concern with concussions and all but how are they to make plays? Do you just say "oh, I can't hit you ... just score and win?" ... take it easy on me ... I'm a girl.
Even Gordy & Charles said let 'em play ball ...
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:07 am to clooneyisgod
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:09 am to JustSmokin
jpones led with shoulder but hit helmet to helmet..
anybody remember non-call in bama game
anybody remember non-call in bama game
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:10 am to xiv
Lose the Dreadlocks and "dew rags" and the helmet would stay more secure. I wish the NCAA Gestapo would initiate some sort of hair length and dress code in all NCAA sports. Not racist, mullets and pony tails of whites should also be removed.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:12 am to Turbeauxdog
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I'm tired of seeing helmets flying around the field because skill players have loosely fitting helmets and don't snap all 4 snaps.
I see no evidence of that here.
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:23 am to Wag000
I just wish they would call it on the OFF players as well..how many Running Backs put thier head down and use it as a battering ram?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:32 am to xiv
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Disagree completely. The helmet is not a weapon. Basically you're supposed to hit a guy as if no one is wearing helmets. Wrap him up and bring him down. You wouldn't spear a guy if you didn't have a helmet. You wouldn't lead with your head if you didn't have a helmet.
Obviously, you've never played organized football. Although I'm not condoneng it, tackling has been coached and taught that way forever. Eyes up, face in the opposing player's stenum. (ideally) It is rediculous to say they should tackle as though no one was wearing helmets. Helmet to helmet contact 95% of the time is incidental. Leading with the top of the helmet is dangerous for both opposing players, especially as it pertains to neck injuries for the person delivering the hit. If you want to see football teams tackling as though no one had a helmet on, go watch powder puff football.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:34 am to pianoman224
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I just wish they would call it on the OFF players as well..how many Running Backs put thier head down and use it as a battering ram?
It's only called on defenseless players. A tackler is not defenseless.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:37 am to Turbeauxdog
chad jones led with his shoulder. is he supposed to know the other guy is a pussy with a weak neck
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:37 am to Turbeauxdog
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then not properly securing your helmet should also be 15 yards.
The NCAA (and NFL for that matter) really should be more vigilant regarding this issue.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:39 am to Turbeauxdog
whether helmet to helmet is intentional or not, its still equally as dangerous and should be 15 yards
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