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re: Redding: SEC officiating isn't broke
Posted on 11/11/09 at 8:10 am to los angeles tiger
Posted on 11/11/09 at 8:10 am to los angeles tiger
Well yeah, we know it is BS. And it wasn't something that a HD feed would have made any difference.
But that doesn't have anything to do with them requiring some HD feed for replays.
But that doesn't have anything to do with them requiring some HD feed for replays.
This post was edited on 11/11/09 at 8:11 am
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Posted on 11/11/09 at 8:14 am to Volvagia
As I said. Two TV's in one room and just watch the game on CBS or ESPN. Both of them show multiple angles to us the fans anyway so they can watch it just like us. TV's aren't that expensive and could be donated and used as marketing/advertising for Sony.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 9:29 am to NC_Tigah
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I sent him a 'Congratulatory' Chinese Dragon Letter just as I did after the 2006 Auburn game. For those not fluent in Chinese, these messages are often easier read when rotated to the left.
Brilliant once again!
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:12 am to seawolf06
You can get a frickin HD TV from Costco for 4 $600 bucks. They just signed a Billion dollar contract with ESPN/CBS....what the frick? He says no need for them....what a joke. Someone kick his arse.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:18 am to seawolf06
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:34 am to 80sTiger
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Solomon posted this today. Really good article, especially for a guy in the heart of Gumpland.
from the article...
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But what's happened to some of the most respected SEC officials? Steve Shaw, who has worked six BCS bowl games and is widely considered one of the best referees in the country, has disappeared from high-profile SEC games. So has linesman Lane Thomas, who is also well respected.
What, they actually make correct calls, so their services are no longer necessary???????????
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:37 am to CptBengal
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What, they actually make correct calls, so their services are no longer necessary???????????
They don't buy into the way Slive has them working I'm sure.
Every bowl game with SEC officials will be criticized this year also. It won't stop with Bama/UF.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:43 am to seawolf06
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"The instant replay rule is if you don't have clear, 100 percent, absolute proof that the call on the field is incorrect, then you let it stand," Redding said. "By the same token, if you don't have the same level of proof that the call is correct, then you don't confirm it. Regarding this specific play, I'm just not going to comment about it."
Three things about this:
First, I'm not sure what it even means. Is there some sort of distinction between "let it stand" and "confirm it"? If so, is there any practical effect that the difference has?
Second: Is the rule really that you need 100% proof to reverse a call? I don't think the standard for finding someone guilty of a capital crime is that great.
Maybe they need a new standard. "clear and convincing"? "beyond a reasonable doubt"? Or maybe they just need people with common sense to do the replays.
Third: does the same standard apply when the on the field officals didn't even really see the play? In other words, can the replay official ask the guy communicating with him on the field "how sure are you that you saw it this way"?
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:47 am to 80sTiger
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Solomon posted this today. Really good article, especially for a guy in the heart of Gumpland
Shockingly so.
"For all of the justified criticism directed at instant replay official Gerald Hodges for not awarding an interception to LSU's Patrick Peterson against Alabama, the fact is the play was originally side judge Dean Waite's call to make.
He was far away from the play. He looked as if he froze before seeking help from the linesman and signaling incomplete. He was wrong."
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:49 am to los angeles tiger
I could do a better job with my DVR and phone call to the referee.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:51 am to Methuselah
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"The instant replay rule is if you don't have clear, 100 percent, absolute proof that the call on the field is incorrect, then you let it stand," Redding said. "By the same token, if you don't have the same level of proof that the call is correct, then you don't confirm it. Regarding this specific play, I'm just not going to comment about it."
WTF does this even mean?
This arse-hole should be a politician.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 10:59 am to cigtyme
He thinks this call is not that big of a deal.
We are down 6 with 5:40 left. Our BU QB has already scored on a 59 yard drive. The INT prevents them from making the field goal that put the game away. We burn up 3 minutes, go 65 yrds and score. They get the ball back with 2:43. We have MO on our side, Saban is in his, "handling adversity mode". Our D and Nevis stops Ingram after 2 series. We get the ball back with 1 minute remaining and run the clock out. We are up 22 to 21 at this point.
And bigger than all the above - this game is for a shot at the SEC and NC game. So no -
this wasn't an everyday run of the mill call.This call was for the whole ball of wax!
We are down 6 with 5:40 left. Our BU QB has already scored on a 59 yard drive. The INT prevents them from making the field goal that put the game away. We burn up 3 minutes, go 65 yrds and score. They get the ball back with 2:43. We have MO on our side, Saban is in his, "handling adversity mode". Our D and Nevis stops Ingram after 2 series. We get the ball back with 1 minute remaining and run the clock out. We are up 22 to 21 at this point.
And bigger than all the above - this game is for a shot at the SEC and NC game. So no -
this wasn't an everyday run of the mill call.This call was for the whole ball of wax!
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:03 am to seawolf06
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I don't see any sort of emergency, oh my God, we've got to fix something here."
And your refs dont see anything either.
Hey Redding! When the whole sports media is saying "your officials suck"., you might want to get your head out of your arse.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:07 am to Methuselah
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Is there some sort of distinction between "let it stand" and "confirm it"? If so, is there any practical effect that the difference has?
Yes, there is a difference and that's why if you pay close attenton to the announcement after a review you will hear them both used.
If there is a play and the replay is inconclusive, it will stand and the announcement will be made that "the play stands." If the review is conclusive and the ruling is upheld, the announcement will be made that the "ruling is confirmed."
Listen for it the next couple of weeks and you will see what I'm talking about.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:11 am to seawolf06
"as long as the top 2 teams continue to gross us the most money, we won't fix it"
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:11 am to Commando
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"For all of the justified criticism directed at instant replay official Gerald Hodges for not awarding an interception to LSU's Patrick Peterson against Alabama, the fact is the play was originally side judge Dean Waite's call to make.
He was far away from the play. He looked as if he froze before seeking help from the linesman and signaling incomplete. He was wrong."
Actually it belonged to both him and the H.
Posted on 11/11/09 at 11:18 am to Statestreet
all coaches should follow urban myers example .....take the fine, tell the truth
Posted on 11/11/09 at 12:36 pm to seawolf06
I'd argue it is broke. The rule is that there has to be 100% video evidence that the call on the field was wrong. This automatically gives the call on the field more weight. In the PP Int you could see that both Refs on the sidelines did not make a call immediately because they didn't see it. One Ref eventually ruled incomplete since he couldn't see. If he couldn't see it why not rule it an interception? The review system is based on there being a definitive call made on the field and then reviewwed and that wasn't what happened.
That says it all...it's definitely in the eye of the beholder, the replay official!! That's what peaople are complaining about
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Redding said. "But I don't see this particular play, even though it's generated a lot of fan and media hit, as anything out of the ordinary at all. I guess the controversy -- if it is this -- is in the eye of the beholder."
That says it all...it's definitely in the eye of the beholder, the replay official!! That's what peaople are complaining about
Posted on 11/11/09 at 12:58 pm to jobajuha
Hey Redding - I have a car, the tires are flat, the muffler is dragging, the engine is spewing oil, the radiator is leaking, the steering is shot and etc...It is not broke but their are many problems...Get my drift...Fix the problems...The SEC is becoming a laughing stock... 
Posted on 11/11/09 at 12:59 pm to jobajuha
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If he couldn't see it why not rule it an interception?
Because if they are in doubt, they are instructed to rule it incomplete.
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