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Verbal commits taking visits to other schools, yes or no?
Posted on 9/7/09 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 9/7/09 at 12:36 pm
First of all I am all for a kid getting the most out the recruitment process, but should Les allow a player to verbaly commit if they want to visit other schools? If a top RB is looking at LSU but we already have 2 verbals for RB, he is not going to give us serious consideration. Then one of our committed RB's takes a visit to another school loves it and changes his commitment right before signing day. Meanwhile the RB who was considering LSU already chose FSU because we had 2 commits for RB.
It is exactly what happened with the kid Jackson, from Barb last year. We hold his spot and loose out on the other safety from Atlanta.
I just think we should not except a vervbal commitment until they are 100% committed. Meaning no other visits.
The reason I ask is because I read that Sam Gibson had decided to take some visits. Now this is a good recruit but not a great one. He has a spot taken. What if he changes his mind after these visits? We held a spot for an average recruit. When we may have gotten a better player if they thought we had room.
It is exactly what happened with the kid Jackson, from Barb last year. We hold his spot and loose out on the other safety from Atlanta.
I just think we should not except a vervbal commitment until they are 100% committed. Meaning no other visits.
The reason I ask is because I read that Sam Gibson had decided to take some visits. Now this is a good recruit but not a great one. He has a spot taken. What if he changes his mind after these visits? We held a spot for an average recruit. When we may have gotten a better player if they thought we had room.
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Posted on 9/7/09 at 12:43 pm to luggerhead
Players need to learn to make a decision and stick with it. If they make it and arent sure, they really shouldnt have commited.
Posted on 9/7/09 at 12:52 pm to Ryan3232
IF they want to take visits then just hold off committing til they are donr with them. Its not like committing really means anything.
Posted on 9/7/09 at 1:50 pm to luggerhead
I believe in a sort of sliding scale approach. The closer to signing day (say Jan), you have to take a stronger position against visits. A couple of points though:
o Regardless of when, it should be clearly communicated that if you take a visit, we will not guarantee your spot. We will continue to recruit and another may take your spot.
o I don't think it's practical to take an absolute position against visits. Sometimes a recruit's talent gives him more power in the situation. Say LA has the number 1 recruit in the nation at a position of need; he commits in June; and in Oct he wants to take a visit somewhere. Would you really expect us to pull his offer? You might be hard arse with a recruit when you have equivalent viable alternatives, but not in a situation like this.
o Regardless of when, it should be clearly communicated that if you take a visit, we will not guarantee your spot. We will continue to recruit and another may take your spot.
o I don't think it's practical to take an absolute position against visits. Sometimes a recruit's talent gives him more power in the situation. Say LA has the number 1 recruit in the nation at a position of need; he commits in June; and in Oct he wants to take a visit somewhere. Would you really expect us to pull his offer? You might be hard arse with a recruit when you have equivalent viable alternatives, but not in a situation like this.
Posted on 9/7/09 at 3:36 pm to Indiana Tiger
Is this one of the reasons why football should have an early signing period?
Posted on 9/7/09 at 3:39 pm to c on z
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Is this one of the reasons why football should have an early signing period?
I think that football should definitely have an early signing period. The best time for it would probably be in mid-August before most of the high schoolers start their senior year.
To the original poster, where did Gibson say he was going to take visits? And did he mention which schools he was interested in?
Posted on 9/7/09 at 9:40 pm to Keys Open Doors
I read that on TigerRag. He said that he was going to tell Les that he wanted to take a few visits.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:55 am to luggerhead
As long as the NCAA allows a recruit to take five official visits, then colleges will allow it to happen. NCAA needs to make a ruling that if you commit, you only have one official visit you can take - to the school you commited to.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:42 am to LSUGatorKiller
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As long as the NCAA allows a recruit to take five official visits, then colleges will allow it to happen. NCAA needs to make a ruling that if you commit, you only have one official visit you can take - to the school you commited to.
The interests of the athletes and the interests of the schools have to be balanced. I can't support an early signing period because while I can see the benefits to the schools, I can't see how that is really in the best interest of the athletes. Your suggestion, assuming that there would be a penalty for violating it, is equivalent to a free-floating early signing period.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 5:23 pm to luggerhead
Depends on the recruit. For marginal recruits, you make an example. For elite recruits, you make an exception.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 5:32 pm to LSUGatorKiller
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NCAA needs to make a ruling that if you commit, you only have one official visit you can take - to the school you commited to.
Very flawed. What if a kid commits, then halfway through the season the school he committed to fires their OC or DC or something along those lines (see: Auburn last year)...what, that kid is now not allowed to rethink their stance?
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