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re: Another myth bites the dust
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
JL isn't much of a threat in an option offense./thread
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Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:41 pm to TheDoc
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k-dub > hester
scott > hester
Sick of this aqrguement. Possibly Scott, but prove in some way, how Williams is a better collegiate RB than Hester. Show emperical data, stats that back up this statement. To this point in their careers, Hester has provento be more effective.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:44 pm to TIsuGGER
they are not even wearing pads yet 
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:45 pm to TheDoc
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he's honestly like a steamboat pushing upstream when he runs.
ha. I used to tell ppl JR had the mobility of a barge
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:47 pm to kevind51
Just for the record. Jarrett Lee ran for more yards in high school than Andrew Hatch and Jordan Jefferson. I looked this up last year when a similar thread came up.
I know this doesn't mean it'll translate into him being a rushing threat in the SEC. But, just a reminder that just because he was scared to run last year, doesn't mean that he doesn't have the ability to.
I know this doesn't mean it'll translate into him being a rushing threat in the SEC. But, just a reminder that just because he was scared to run last year, doesn't mean that he doesn't have the ability to.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:51 pm to ATLTiger
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ha. I used to tell ppl JR had the mobility of a barge
and that makes you an idiot. JR is very mobile for a QB his size. A barge wouldn't be able to run for 50 yards in any SEC game at all. Of course, I don't expect you to understand this. But, JR didn't show his mobility because he didn't have to. He was best putting the ball in the air. But, when he had to avoid a pass rush, he might have been our best QB of doing so (and still having the ability to throw the ball down field) that LSU has seen in a long time.
JR used his mobility to make many defensive players look plain stupid in just about every game he played. But, he didn't get scared of a lil' pass rush and take off running like Matt Flynn. So, I guess that makes him immobile and a barge.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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how Williams is a better collegiate RB than Hester.
well... hester WAS more of a coach on the field.
and his motor never stopped running, either.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:53 pm to hashtag
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Jarrett Lee ran for more yards in high school than Andrew Hatch and Jordan Jefferson.
JL played in a "spread offense".
JJ played in a "pro-style" offense at destrehan.
can't really compare the two.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:53 pm to TheDoc
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well... hester WAS more of a coach on the field.
and his motor never stopped running, either.
...solid possession receiver.
...sure handed glove at second base
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:54 pm to hashtag
yeah, comparing jarmarcus to lee is pretty bad.
jamarcus, when he got going, was a LOAD to take down, and was actually pretty fast for his size.
lee? not so much
jamarcus, when he got going, was a LOAD to take down, and was actually pretty fast for his size.
lee? not so much
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:55 pm to TheDoc
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JL played in a "spread offense".
JJ played in a "pro-style" offense at destrehan.
can't really compare the two.
my point wasn't saying he's a better runner. Rather, I am simply saying that he has the ability to run.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:55 pm to hashtag
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Rather, I am simply saying that he has the ability to run.
Jared lorenzen had the ABILTY to run too
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:55 pm to TheDoc
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JJ played in a "pro-style" offense at destrehan.
From the vids I remember, it looked like JJ played in a spread too.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:56 pm to amiznit
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From the vids I remember, it looked like JJ played in a spread too.
After JJ got hurt his junior year, he definitely ran more of a pro offense than he did as a junior. So, JJ did run a good bit as a QB in high school. Lee just ran more often and for more yards.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:58 pm to hashtag
I remember when I played HS ball and all the "old guys" would stand on the hill when we were a week into practice. I would think, what are they watching and talking about... we are five days into practice. Now see a glimpse.
Fun conversation, but right now they are just running drills. We will see what happens in the next couple weeks once pads are on.
Fun conversation, but right now they are just running drills. We will see what happens in the next couple weeks once pads are on.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:59 pm to amiznit
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From the vids I remember, it looked like JJ played in a spread too.
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One of the nation’s top prep quarterbacks as a senior at Destrehan High School ... Named a high school All-America by SuperPrep Magazine ... Named a Top 20 quarterback by Scout.com and named a Top 10 pro-style quarterback by Rivals.com ... Considered a four-star pro-style quarterback by Rivals.com ... Impressed coaches and players with his athletic ability at the Nike camp in Columbia, Mo. ... A member of Rivals.com Top 250 ... Earned Louisiana Top 40 honors from Rivals.com ... Named to the Superprep All-Southwest team ... A 2008 Baton Rouge Advocate Super Dozen selection ... Named to the Class 5A all-state first team as a senior ... Also named the Class 5A Offensive Player of the Year ... As a senior in 2007, helped Destrehan High School clinch the Class 5A state championship, finishing with a 15-0 record ... Threw for 2,846 yards, 24 touchdowns and only three interceptions during Destrehan’s championship season ... Completed 64.8 percent of his passes for a quarterback rating of 172.5 ... Started the first half of his junior season in 2006 before suffering a broken wrist after slamming it into the helmet of current LSU defensive tackle Drake Nevis ... Guided Destrehan to a 6-0 record, passing for 1,666 yards, 20 touchdowns and four interceptions during his junior season ... Finished his high school career with a perfect record (21-0) in games in which he started ... Coached by Steve Robichaux.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:01 pm to TheDoc
Pro-style in that sense means he was a pocket passer.
Watch his videos on scout. He's in shotgun ALL the time with 4+ WR.
"Spread" doesn't necessarily mean the QB runs.
ETA:
Jarrett Lee, pro-style QB
Jordan Jeferson, pro-style QB
Watch his videos on scout. He's in shotgun ALL the time with 4+ WR.
"Spread" doesn't necessarily mean the QB runs.
ETA:
Jarrett Lee, pro-style QB
Jordan Jeferson, pro-style QB
This post was edited on 8/8/09 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Sick of this aqrguement. Possibly Scott, but prove in some way, how Williams is a better collegiate RB than Hester. Show emperical data, stats that back up this statement. To this point in their careers, Hester has provento be more effective.
not really, Williams started over Hester, who was a junior at the time, as a true freshman. Williams will now be a senior (the year when Hester played HB well.
So at this point in their careers, Williams was a more effective running back than hester
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:46 pm to TheDoc
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JL played in a "spread offense".
JJ played in a "pro-style" offense at destrehan.
can't really compare the two.
Dont coaches usually play to their players strength? I think many are going to be disappointed with the "dual-threat" label they have created. JJ's a pro-style quarterback, who has shown a tendency to fumble and take sacks. As someone else said, if the slow JL is already looking better at the option, there will be no dual threat this year.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 2:12 pm to TIsuGGER
Is jefferson a threat to run the ball? Yes bc he's fast and athletic.
Is Jefferson a threat to throw the ball? Yes obviously that is his primary skill set.
Therefore he is dual-threat.
Is Lee a threat to run the ball? Not at all.
Is Lee a threat to throw the ball? Maybe more of a threat to LSU than our opponent
Is Jefferson a threat to throw the ball? Yes obviously that is his primary skill set.
Therefore he is dual-threat.
Is Lee a threat to run the ball? Not at all.
Is Lee a threat to throw the ball? Maybe more of a threat to LSU than our opponent
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