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re: Les is More
Posted on 6/4/09 at 3:08 pm to crowbar832001
Posted on 6/4/09 at 3:08 pm to crowbar832001
What is the only coach at LSU to beat Auburn, Alabama, and Florida in the same year. No not Nick...that would belong to Les. Les is more.
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Posted on 6/4/09 at 3:24 pm to Geert Hammink_43
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And Les' teams haven't.
LSU is yet to beat one of the better teams in hte SEC by more than seven points. I'd say that's having difficulty with good opponents.
Saban was also in the midst of the rebuilding process where they had to "learn how to win" again.
Miles inherited a program that was a year removed from a national title.
Bit of a difference there, ya think?
You know i get really sick of this argument, "Les hasn't beat the really good teams by a lot of points" It just doesn't make sense to me. If we beat florida by 40 points next year will we get more than 1 win in our win column? I think it only counts as 1. So why does it matter if we only beat a team by a few points? A win is still a win. And i will take a 1 point win is just as good as a 40 point win. Oh and we beat alabama by 2 touchdowns in 06 and we beat south carolina in 2007 by 12 but we were really up by way more than that, we just let them score late. My point is that a wins a win. Les miles has a great record against some of our biggest rivals.
Posted on 6/4/09 at 3:33 pm to BaylorTiger
Posted on 6/4/09 at 3:38 pm to crowbar832001
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What does Les have to do for some of you morons to except him?
i agree.
but, accept.
Posted on 6/4/09 at 4:39 pm to LoyalTiger
I'd like to see Mark Richt's name on this list.. just for comparison's sake. I don't think you can make a list of the "Elite" coaches of the past five years without including him.
I don't think anyone can rightfully dismiss what Miles has done at LSU. Then again, this is going to be the first year that LSU is a completely Miles born and bred team. Even so, people seriously need to stop attributing his success to Saban and need to stop making these comparisons. Saban was great for LSU. He is now coaching at Alabama. Get over it. The only animosity that should be directed his way is because he is now trying to defeat our team every year. As far as I'm concerned, we have no history and he is of no greater consequence than Nutt or Meyer or Richt. Embrace the future.
I don't think anyone can rightfully dismiss what Miles has done at LSU. Then again, this is going to be the first year that LSU is a completely Miles born and bred team. Even so, people seriously need to stop attributing his success to Saban and need to stop making these comparisons. Saban was great for LSU. He is now coaching at Alabama. Get over it. The only animosity that should be directed his way is because he is now trying to defeat our team every year. As far as I'm concerned, we have no history and he is of no greater consequence than Nutt or Meyer or Richt. Embrace the future.
Posted on 6/4/09 at 4:46 pm to Dignan
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We have a good coach, but an even bigger inferiority complex.
+8786754
Kind of sad, really.
Posted on 6/4/09 at 4:47 pm to chilge1
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I'd like to see Mark Richt's name on this list.. just for comparison's sake. I don't think you can make a list of the "Elite" coaches of the past five years without including him.
Richt's winning percentage during the same timeperiod is .8077, just a hair above Miles' .7925.
Posted on 6/4/09 at 4:49 pm to Geert Hammink_43
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LSU is yet to beat one of the better teams in hte SEC by more than seven points. I'd say that's having difficulty with good opponents
By definition, the better teams in the SEC will not get blown out very often. And Les' teams have handled top OOC teams better than any LSU coach I can think of.
Posted on 6/4/09 at 5:32 pm to crowbar832001
Les Miles teams play tight in big SEC games. He seems to not know how to unleash the hounds in a big SEC matchup like he does in his OOC big matchups. And no, I don't like Saban better than Les. Saban is a prick and good coach, and Les is a good person and a good coach. If Les hadn't screwed the pooch last year, he would be leading that entire list.
This post was edited on 6/4/09 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 6/4/09 at 7:25 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
In 2007, we beat 1/3 of the teams that ended up in the final AP top 15.
5 out of 15. That should speak volumes about what that 2-loss team accomplished that year.
VT, OSU, Tenn, UF, AU. Not too shabby.
5 out of 15. That should speak volumes about what that 2-loss team accomplished that year.
VT, OSU, Tenn, UF, AU. Not too shabby.
Posted on 6/4/09 at 7:39 pm to zack7552
I don't care what the "experts" say. I think we have a good coach. Look Saban was good, but I think when people keep mentioning that they inadvertently undermine what Miles has done.
I really think there are some characteristics about Miles as a coach that have allowed LSU to win certain games. Do we beat Florida in 2007 down by 10 with Saban? No. Sorry we aren't going for it on 4th down 5x.
With that all said I'm pretty damn happy with the coach we got. Again, keep hating on Miles. It's fine by me.
I really think there are some characteristics about Miles as a coach that have allowed LSU to win certain games. Do we beat Florida in 2007 down by 10 with Saban? No. Sorry we aren't going for it on 4th down 5x.
With that all said I'm pretty damn happy with the coach we got. Again, keep hating on Miles. It's fine by me.
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:06 pm to crowbar832001
What was LSU's record at home last year against SEC teams ??? This year will prove all y'all need to know about Les . I hope I am wrong but that never happens !!!
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:14 pm to geauxdjback9
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What was LSU's record at home last year against SEC teams ??? This year will prove all y'all need to know about Les . I hope I am wrong but that never happens !!!
a lot of things contributed to last season, including saban over-recruiting before he left
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:20 pm to TigerBait1127
I hope you are right BUT Nick had nothing to do with the boneheaded playcalls . 
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:22 pm to geauxdjback9
no, but it was his fault we lacked senior leadership due to the 2005 signing class
the playcalls weren't boneheaded, the schemes were
the playcalls weren't boneheaded, the schemes were
This post was edited on 6/4/09 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:23 pm to ChuckDockery
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Nick was turning around our losing culture. Les is maintaining our winning ways. Hard to actually compare precisely.
You hit the nail on the head
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:24 pm to Geert Hammink_43
[quote]And Les' teams haven't. LSU is yet to beat one of the better teams in hte SEC by more than seven points. I'd say that's having difficulty with good opponents. Saban was also in the midst of the rebuilding process where they had to "learn how to win" again. Miles inherited a program that was a year removed from a national title. Bit of a difference there, ya think?[/quot
Right on
Right on
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:25 pm to TigerBait1127
who is ultimtely resonsible for said schemes ???
just saying
just saying
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:27 pm to Geert Hammink_43
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And Les' teams haven't.
LSU is yet to beat one of the better teams in hte SEC by more than seven points. I'd say that's having difficulty with good opponents.
Saban was also in the midst of the rebuilding process where they had to "learn how to win" again.
Miles inherited a program that was a year removed from a national title.
Bit of a difference there, ya think?
Attention little nicky knob slobber. It doesn't matter if you win by 1 point or 50, the W is still a W.
Learn to win? Funny the core of the NC team was made up of Dinardo players that had seen winning teams when they were recruited to LSU. It was only the last 2 years that Dinardo lost his composure and tried to run every aspect of the team. That got him run off and Saban inherited a nucleus of really good talent to, as you say "learn to win"
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:32 pm to geauxdjback9
Like it or not you can't accurately compare Saban/Miles until this year because... he's using his boys etc... I think he will be better.
In Saban's early years he was turning around a losing culture. In Miles early years, like it or not, he inherited a winning program.
IMO, the two things that makes Miles look inept nationally and causes some to doubt him are:
1) Some of the things he says in press conferences and...
2) Some play calling.
For example, be honest now... we throw long against AU with about 10 seconds left on the clock. Byrd makes the catch, place goes wild. But, let's say he doesn't make the catch, all of sudden, there is no time left on the clock for a sure fg.
I'm NOT bashing Miles, just pointing out why some question him.
In Saban's early years he was turning around a losing culture. In Miles early years, like it or not, he inherited a winning program.
IMO, the two things that makes Miles look inept nationally and causes some to doubt him are:
1) Some of the things he says in press conferences and...
2) Some play calling.
For example, be honest now... we throw long against AU with about 10 seconds left on the clock. Byrd makes the catch, place goes wild. But, let's say he doesn't make the catch, all of sudden, there is no time left on the clock for a sure fg.
I'm NOT bashing Miles, just pointing out why some question him.
This post was edited on 6/4/09 at 8:33 pm
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