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re: Can't say "WE" when talking about LSU if not an alum

Posted on 3/30/09 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
2408 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 12:44 pm to
What about faculity and coaches? Since they do not have a degree from LSU can they say "we"?
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18816 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 12:45 pm to
I would offer this, when talking about the Saints don't a lot of people say "we"??

If that's the case then WTF? Associate yourselves with LSU please. I can't say I like bandwagoners but shite I'll take as many LSU fans as WE can get.

Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2418 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 12:45 pm to
Mike Golic is in no position to tell anyone what they can and can't say. As a LSU alum, it bothers me more when students organize vulgar chants at a football game than it does when someone who didn't graduate from LSU gets caught up in the moment and says, "We won". This whole topic barely separates itself from the grammar police who go around correcting punctuation errors. Since people don't walk around with their degrees tatooed on their forehead, its hard for "real" fans to know when someone should or shouldn't say "we", isn't it?

As for Saints fans, and fans of other pro teams whose communities were essentially held hostage under the threat of losing the franchise if government subsidies (stadiums, etc...) weren't provided, "we" have paid, are paying, and are scheduled to continue paying for the right to use the term whether "we" want to or not.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

What about faculity and coaches? Since they do not have a degree from LSU can they say "we"?


And those coaches are quick to leave when the money's not right because they are only there for the $$$$$$$.lol. Then the fans/ALUMS HATE them forever.
This post was edited on 3/30/09 at 12:47 pm
Posted by wmtiger69
west monroe
Member since Nov 2007
790 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:07 pm to
I was thinking about this topic the other day. Glad somebody brought it up.

I graduated from ULM, but have been a season ticket holder at LSU for 7 years. Got the season tickets the year before LSU won the Nat'l Champ. in 2003. I always make a point to say "they" when referring to LSU, for the simple fact that I didn't attend LSU.

It really annoys me when my friends, who have no affiliation whatsoever with LSU, refer to LSU as "we".
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9963 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:11 pm to
You don't have to have a degree to be an alum. You just have to have attended.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136952 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:47 pm to
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You don't have to have a degree to be an alum. You just have to have attended.
Huh?
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1758 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:55 pm to
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just curious, how many of the people that are getting worked up over this and are not LSU alums actually attended another university?



I attended Mizzou because of location to family. I got accepted into LSU, not hard to get accepted into that school.lol. But I didn't want to live 12hrs away from Family and don't care to live in Louisiana for 4yrs. A lot of people don't attend LSU because of where they live, maybe don't want to live in crime infested Baton Rouge for 4yrs, don't have the money. It's not because they couldn't get accepted into the school.



You proved my point exactly. So you didn't want to attend LSU for whatever personal reason and I am not dogging your decision to each his own. But you chose not to go to LSU and then try to claim LSU in the same breathe. That doesn't make any sense. I am not saying that you don't love LSU or aren't a fan but to be able to claim affiliation to the university outside of being a die hard, you should have gone here.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36169 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:59 pm to
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Source: Mike Golic on Mike and Mike in the morning

he says that you can use "we" if you say that "we won" and "we lost" when it pertains to YOUR ALMA MATER

he also says that you cannot say "we" when it comes to a pro sports team

what say you?


I usually like Golic, but completely disagree with him here.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78252 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 2:06 pm to
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You proved my point exactly. So you didn't want to attend LSU for whatever personal reason and I am not dogging your decision to each his own. But you chose not to go to LSU and then try to claim LSU in the same breathe. That doesn't make any sense. I am not saying that you don't love LSU or aren't a fan but to be able to claim affiliation to the university outside of being a die hard, you should have gone here.



So I guess only Saint's Season ticket holders are allowed to say we ? Or only people who live in New Orleans ? Or maybe no one is allowed to say "we" because they never went to school at the Superdome ?
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1758 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 2:12 pm to
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quote:
You proved my point exactly. So you didn't want to attend LSU for whatever personal reason and I am not dogging your decision to each his own. But you chose not to go to LSU and then try to claim LSU in the same breathe. That doesn't make any sense. I am not saying that you don't love LSU or aren't a fan but to be able to claim affiliation to the university outside of being a die hard, you should have gone here.



So I guess only Saint's Season ticket holders are allowed to say we ? Or only people who live in New Orleans ? Or maybe no one is allowed to say "we" because they never went to school at the Superdome ?


For the record I am a Saints season ticket holder and still don't say we when it comes to pro sports teams. So no one can say we when it comes to the saints

as for LSU

You didn't go to LSU, you can't say we, get over it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89790 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 2:32 pm to
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what say you?


I don't know about other schools or other fan traditions. For what it's worth, here's my criteria:

1.) Obviously, if you played varsity sports at LSU, you can say "We", when referring to LSU.

2.) If you hold a degree, associates, bachelor's, graduate or professional, from LSU, you can say "We".

3.) If you attended LSU, but did not complete your degree requirements, and do not actively support other schools' athletic programs (or do so in a lesser role than you do LSU), you can say, "We".

4.) If you are from Louisiana, or from a family with strong roots in Louisiana, and have never attended any college, but support LSU athletics above all others, you can say "We".

Other than that, I'm going to have to say that it's a case-by-case situation. That includes my son, who is attending Louisiana Tech. He did attend LSU-A for a semester and does support LSU athletics. However, once he earns that LaTech degree, I may have to tell him that he's not a member of the LSU family.

You pays your money and you takes your chances....

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36169 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 2:56 pm to
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4.) If you are from Louisiana, or from a family with strong roots in Louisiana, and have never attended any college, but support LSU athletics above all others, you can say "We".


But if I'm that exact same scenario, but go to a different college, I can't say "we", but if I just wouldn't have gone to college, I'd be allowed to?
Posted by lsutiger_08
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
6683 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:24 pm to
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4.) If you are from Louisiana, or from a family with strong roots in Louisiana, and have never attended any college, but support LSU athletics above all others, you can say "We".


I don't agree with this one. The other ones I do.

I think you are part of the LSU community if you ever held an LSU email address (or registration number before email).

For Christ sake, it's a school. If you didn't go to school there, how are you a part of it? WITHOUT THE STUDENTS, THERE IS NO TEAM. I don't care how much money ticket holders pump into it.
Posted by ThickAndThinLSUfan
Picayune, MS
Member since Jan 2008
113 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:34 pm to
+1,000,000,000,000,000

Are you seriously going to tell me, that despite graduating from LSUNO and NOT LSUBR that I can't say we??

I say frick all of you pompous asses (and probably fairweather fans) who support this idiotic and asinine point of view.

But...as a previous poster said, "Opinions are llike assholes. Everybody has one and they usually stink"

WE are LSU!!

Posted by lsutiger_08
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
6683 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Are you seriously going to tell me, that despite graduating from LSUNO and NOT LSUBR that I can't say we??



It's a part of the LSU system, so you are part of the LSU community.

I just don't understand what the hell some people's logic here is. Many of you are saying because you support athletics, you can say "We". What about those of us who actually give a shite about the University itself, and what it means to US. You are not included in that, and never will be.

US and WE are interchangeable. FAN and WE are not.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96074 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:41 pm to
there arent many topics i hate more than this one when people try to say you cant say "we". how fricking dumb do you have to be?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136952 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:42 pm to
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there arent many topics i hate more than this one when people try to say you cant say "we". how fricking dumb do you have to be?
i dont know

ask mike golic
Posted by lsutiger_08
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
6683 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:43 pm to
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there arent many topics i hate more than this one when people try to say you cant say "we". how fricking dumb do you have to be?



I agree a person is free to say whatever the hell they want. Sometimes a word is hollow, and I am contending that there is no merit to someone saying "we" whose only connection to the University is sport entertainment.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96074 posts
Posted on 3/30/09 at 3:43 pm to
if i ever saw irl trust me i would.
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