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Serious question
Posted on 3/22/09 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 3/22/09 at 10:24 pm
Let me begin by saying that I am extremely proud of the basketball team's accomplishments this year and the job done by Trent Johnson. Also, please understand that I'm not trying to be controversial, but does anyone out there think that Butch Pierre intended to undermine Trent Johnson by encouraging Anthony Randolph to go pro? If you've seen AR's NBA highlights (as I'm sure many of you have), there is little doubt that LSU would have beaten UNC, and possibly have been a threat to make the Final Four had AR stayed around for one more year.
Posted on 3/22/09 at 10:25 pm to TigerMac81
Randolph would have been stupid to stay. The answer to your question is no.
Posted on 3/22/09 at 10:25 pm to TigerMac81
Lets say He probably didnt give it his all to keep him at LSU!!
Posted on 3/22/09 at 10:27 pm to TigerMac81
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does anyone out there think that Butch Pierre intended to undermine Trent Johnson by encouraging Anthony Randolph to go pro? If you've seen AR's NBA highlights (as I'm sure many of you have), there is little doubt that LSU would have beaten UNC, and possibly have been a threat to make the Final Four had AR stayed around for one more year
A very talented freshman leaving early, esp if he's not at a basketball powerhouse, isn't exactly unheard of. What about Butch's character or past actions lead you to believe he would do that?
Posted on 3/22/09 at 10:32 pm to geauxtigahs87
What was he the 14th pick? or something like that, If you are a lottery pick you gotta gooooo
Posted on 3/22/09 at 10:33 pm to TigerMac81
Tiger no not at all. Butch had nothing to do with Anthony leaving for the NBA. Yes it would have been nice to have him back this year and we could have used him but he made the decision not to come back. You Brady haters need to stop thinking you know everything and that Brady or his assistants ran people off b.c it is simply not true.
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Serious question
Let me begin by saying that I am extremely proud of the basketball team's accomplishments this year and the job done by Trent Johnson. Also, please understand that I'm not trying to be controversial, but does anyone out there think that Butch Pierre intended to undermine Trent Johnson by encouraging Anthony Randolph to go pro? If you've seen AR's NBA highlights (as I'm sure many of you have), there is little doubt that LSU would have beaten UNC, and possibly have been a threat to make the Final Four had AR stayed around for one more year
Posted on 3/23/09 at 1:01 am to TigerMac81
The same thing can be said about UNC many many times.like how if brandon wright had stayed at school UNC would have won the national title last year and would probably win easily this year.bottom line thought is very talented players that dont usually stick around more than 1-2 years,winning mean nothing to them when they're guaranteed to be a lottery pick in the NBA.so dont blame Butch Pierre this happens at lots of schools its just how college basketball is now, witch makes it harder than ever to built a team for a championship run.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 1:08 am to CarolinaBlue704
I hate...I mean HATE the NBA because of things like this. College basketball is basicaly swept under the rug due to the NBA's "Come on out and get rich" philosophy. This team with Randolph would be on par with Memphis and the like. We'd have been one of the stongest LSU teams in school history.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 1:12 am to PiscesTiger
Lottery pick = $$$$$$$. No one here can legitimately say the temptation wouldn't be too great for you. I'd skip out for the cash too.
I highly doubt Butch Pierre specifically undermined Johnson to get Randolph out. LSU thrived and succeeding in spite of the lack of his presence.
As for PT's comment, I hate the NBA, but for reasons far beyond this. I hated players going straight from high school, but I hate the token one year even more.
I highly doubt Butch Pierre specifically undermined Johnson to get Randolph out. LSU thrived and succeeding in spite of the lack of his presence.
As for PT's comment, I hate the NBA, but for reasons far beyond this. I hated players going straight from high school, but I hate the token one year even more.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 1:28 am to BraveTiger225
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Lottery pick = $$$$$$$. No one here can legitimately say the temptation wouldn't be too great for you. I'd skip out for the cash too.
Of course I would, too. If the rules would just change (make it to where if you enter college, you must stay 3 seasons - like football - or until you are 21), no one would have the choice to begin with.
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I highly doubt Butch Pierre specifically undermined Johnson to get Randolph out. LSU thrived and succeeding in spite of the lack of his presence.
He didn't.
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As for PT's comment, I hate the NBA, but for reasons far beyond this. I hated players going straight from high school, but I hate the token one year even more.
It's THE joke of all leagues, if you ask me. Where else can a franchise win 35 of 82 games in a season and still make post season? Where else do the playoffs last two months? I mean....damn, could we just get Boston, Cleveland, L.A., and one other to play for the damn thing? I hate the NBA and its piped in music playing during possessions, its lethargic until playoff time crowd, and players getting to take 4 steps without traveling being called. I hate leagues that fire coaches after one season and there isn't a bigger example of a group of overgrown children...it's a wonder they even have coaches in the NBA.
If you love LSU basketball...I mean really love it, then I do not see how the hell you can even like the NBA. Thinking back to all the great players LSU lost to the league and its ability to lure in college ballers who think that their lives are just too damn tough to not enter the NBA draft...last I checked, full scholarships are pretty cheap. I realize it ain't $25 million, but it's still not a bad life. Players like Derrick Rose and O.J. Mayo make mockeries of their institutions. Why even make them go attend classes when all they're going to do is play one year? Do championships mean anything to universities not named Duke and UNC?
Like I said, I wouldn't pass up lotto pick money either. I am not contradicting what I just said because there needs to be rules to implement...keep players from going to college for just a year. I have no problem with the "straight outta high school" move, because no one should have to go to college. If, however, you do go to a university to play ball and that institution is giving you a full ride to play a sport - feeding you, sheltering you, and a lot more - the I feel you owe it to that school to pay it back. Players who do the "one and done" are not concerned at all with winning titles. To me, that's what college sports is all about, but the "me" mentality has obscured that and MY personal opinion is that it's a damn shame.
* This is my opinion and it'll never be swayed. That's fine if you disagree.
This post was edited on 3/23/09 at 1:30 am
Posted on 3/23/09 at 1:38 am to CarolinaBlue704
If you assume your lottery-pick-freshman stays then you have to make the same assumption across the board. It all evens out.
And you said "little doubt" we beat Carolina? I still think that game would be in doubt. Although, in this hypothetical situation, LSU would have played NC in the Sweet 16 as a 4 seed.
And you said "little doubt" we beat Carolina? I still think that game would be in doubt. Although, in this hypothetical situation, LSU would have played NC in the Sweet 16 as a 4 seed.
This post was edited on 3/23/09 at 1:55 am
Posted on 3/23/09 at 1:39 am to LSUJuice
LSU with Randolph might have gone 16-0 in SEC play. It would have been scary.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 4:13 am to TigerMac81
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If you've seen AR's NBA highlights (as I'm sure many of you have),
If you've seen his NBA highlights coupled with the fact that he was drafted in the top 15, there is zero doubt that he made the right decision.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 8:43 am to shel311
I watched Randolph muddle through the game last night at the N.O. Arena and was thinking the whole time that I would have loved to have had him in P&G against the Heels ....
But if you're a lottery pick, I think you go pro unless you have some highly unusual circumstances (well to do family, insurance policy purchased).
But if you're a lottery pick, I think you go pro unless you have some highly unusual circumstances (well to do family, insurance policy purchased).
Posted on 3/23/09 at 10:52 am to ligerbait
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Randolph would have been stupid to stay. The answer to your question is no
Wrong. AR ended up going mid/late 1st rd last year. If he had stayed another year, he could have been in the top 5 b/c this year's class in very weak.
I'm not saying it was a bad decision to go pro, but it certainly wouldn't have been "stupid" decision to return for one more year.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 11:00 am to PiscesTiger
PiscesTiger ... that was a damn strong rant, and I agree.
Posted on 3/23/09 at 11:22 am to TigerMac81
Anthony Randolph - Current Salary:$1,709,280
he made the right decision...
If he would have stayed, LSU Basketball =
he made the right decision...
If he would have stayed, LSU Basketball =
Posted on 3/23/09 at 11:56 am to yeanheard
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This team with Randolph would be on par with Memphis and the like. We'd have been one of the stongest LSU teams in school history.
You act like this only happens to LSU, I'm pretty sure if Randolph stayed we wouldn't have been better than Memphis, b/c Rose would have stayed, and that man is tearing it up in the NBA.
So pretty much LSU wouldn't be the greatest team in college, in fact we would have lost by more if UNC still had all those players who left early
Posted on 3/23/09 at 12:17 pm to TigerBait1981
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You Brady haters need to stop thinking you know everything and that Brady or his assistants ran people off b.c it is simply not true.
Youre kidding me, right?
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Ross Neltner
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