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Framing pitches
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:50 am
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:50 am
I’ve been complaining about our catching defense all year like most of us and I just rewatched “walk it off” for the 5th time. Milazzo and Travinski were on a whole nother level when it came to catching and framing pitches and it’s a notable differance for how many more close pitches were called in lsu’s favor because of it. I get so annoyed with the laziness of our catchers to frame a pitch that could be the difference in a lot of games if they were anywhere close to doing it correctly.
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:52 am to mattchewbocca
Framing is alot easier and more effective when pitchers are throwing competitive pitches around the zone. Cant frame when you are diving on live grenades.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:56 am to LSUnatick
I’m not talking about the pitches thrown wild for ball 4. I’m talking about all the very close pitches thrown close to the zone that could have been called the opposite way of the catcher did a better job framing
This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 9:57 am
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:59 am to mattchewbocca
Some of you know what I’m saying. I see our catchers constantly swipe at the ball when they try to frame it and their mitt moves a whole foot from where it lands and it looks ridiculous.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 10:14 am to mattchewbocca
Because they are trying to frame everything back to the center of the zone. In reality they can hide the fringe pitches a lot easier if they would pull it slightly into the zone.
They obviously need to catch the fricking thing first. Which bothers me a lot more than their obvious frame whiffs.
They obviously need to catch the fricking thing first. Which bothers me a lot more than their obvious frame whiffs.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 10:25 am to mattchewbocca
Just like basketball, “analytics” have changed the overall quality of play. It used to be things like K’s (as a hitter) and passed balls (as a catcher) were something coaches and players worked hard to avoid at all costs. Now, there is an increasing level of “bad” that is tolerated in exchange for what is perceived as the optimal results: K’s (as a pitcher) and HRs (as a hitter).
The result is multiple passed balls are fine if the framing results in 3-4 more K’s a game. Or a hitter going 1-4 with 2 Ks is fine…if that 1 is a 2-run HR. It’s become more of an “all or nothing” approach
The result is multiple passed balls are fine if the framing results in 3-4 more K’s a game. Or a hitter going 1-4 with 2 Ks is fine…if that 1 is a 2-run HR. It’s become more of an “all or nothing” approach
Posted on 4/26/26 at 10:26 am to pgaddxn
Yea that’s what I’m saying. To frame a close pitch you quickly move the glove a couple inches. But these 2 jab at the ball and moving it wildly back the middle simultaneously instead of holding the glove in place. I’ve also seen them
Move the glove one way real fast then back
The other way a couple inches for some reason l. It’s so obvious they were never trained properly
Move the glove one way real fast then back
The other way a couple inches for some reason l. It’s so obvious they were never trained properly
Posted on 4/26/26 at 10:35 am to mattchewbocca
I’m tired of the one knee approach. You can’t block shite from 1 knee
Posted on 4/26/26 at 10:50 am to mattchewbocca
Framing would be nice. They need to learn to catch and block first.
Since the 80s, I do not recall more missed catches + way-off pitches from an LSU team.
Since the 80s, I do not recall more missed catches + way-off pitches from an LSU team.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:09 am to mattchewbocca
I agree the catching has been sub par, but I’ve also never seen pitchers miss so badly. Calling high and outside and they spike it inside 3 feet before the plate.
It’s crazy how bad the pitching has been
It’s crazy how bad the pitching has been
Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:16 am to SulphursFinest
Great statement. Our pitchers can't hit their spots. Guess what, they aren't gonna get the marginal calls either because ump himself can't adjust to the scattergun pitches.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:43 am to mattchewbocca
Lynn said last year if you have to move the mitt it's not a strike.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:58 am to 56lsu
quote:that’s my opinion too.
Lynn said last year if you have to move the mitt it's not a strike.
Firstly, I don’t think umpires are influenced much by framing. They see where the ball crosses the plate, regardless of what the catcher does.
Secondly, if i’m an ump and see a catcher frame a pitch to try to con me into thinking it was a strike, it might influence me the OTHER way. Everyone knows catchers don’t need to frame if it’s really a strike.
Much like a flop in basketball. If the contact was legitimate, you don’t need to fake it.
In other words, i think this issue is overblown.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:07 pm to LSUnatick
quote:
Framing is alot easier and more effective when pitchers are throwing competitive pitches around the zone. Cant frame when you are diving on live grenades.
I don’t disagree but it seems like our catchers feel the need to try to frame every pitch, no matter where it is. You don’t need to yank a borderline pitch to the center of the plate, just like you don’t need to try to frame a pitch that is 8 inches off the plate. It feels like our catcher’s move their mitts 6 inches is some direction on 70% of pitches
Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:20 pm to mattchewbocca
Hard for Arambide to frame a pitch when he hits his glove on the ground right as every pitch is starting to come. Have y’all noticed this?
This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:25 pm to mattchewbocca
Was taught when umpiring, the more the catcher moves the glove toward the strike zone, the less it will be called a strike.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:43 pm to canyon
Our pitchers don't seem to maintain command.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:34 pm to atltiger6487
agree that umps go be influenced by a wild jerk of the mitt to the center of the plate....like the ump didn't see it on the edge or close to the edge. A subtle move near the edge is always the way a catcher should frame a pitch. LSU catchers are very poorly taught and coached. Their should be no argument about that whatsoever.
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