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Rubio slaps down OT board favorite George Stephanopoulos

Posted on 3/30/26 at 7:53 am
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted by KCT
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 8:27 am to
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George Stephanopoulos


AKA "Mockingbird Pete"

The Mayor of Munchkin City lies so much that Disney/ABC has had to pay millions to Trump for slander. But, I'm sure those idiots on the OT like sfp have posters of him on their bedroom walls.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 8:37 am to
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ABC News agreed to pay a total of $16 million in December 2024 to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Donald Trump regarding inaccurate on-air statements made by anchor George Stephanopoulos.

SFPhanopoulos is incapable of telling the truth when it comes to Trump.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 8:43 am to
So if the goals are:
1) elimination of their Air Force
2) elimination of their missiles
3) elimination of their factories
4) elimination of their navy

Why are we planning to invade Kharg Island with with 17k US ground troops (where’d Israel go btw?) if doing so accomplishes none of those things?

Their navy and Air Force is already destroyed.

There are no factories there.

And are we no longer worried about nuclear material?

And to be clear regime change is now off the list?

Just want to make sure I understand.
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 8:46 am to
Trump wants to control their oil exports to force negotiations.

Actually controlling Kharg will end up with a lot of spilled American blood though, unfortunately.

If the center of gravity is the Strait of Hormuz, that just requires destroying Iranian forces on the islands near the strait and protecting ships with our own.

We will simultaneously need to be ready to deal with the Houthis because once we start that operation they’re going to shut down the Red Sea.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:07 am to
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Trump wants to control their oil exports to force negotiations.

How is that not the case today with multiple carrier task forces sitting in the region?

If Trump says no Iranian exports how would they export oil tomorrow?
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Actually controlling Kharg will end up with a lot of spilled American blood though, unfortunately.

Yes, which is why I'm unequivocally opposed. Bombs not boots if Kharg has to be removed.
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We will simultaneously need to be ready to deal with the Houthis because once we start that operation they’re going to shut down the Red Sea.

And again, I will point out the obvious counteraction which they've already told and shown us they can and will do which is to eliminate partner civilian infrastructure in the region including oil fields, power plants, desalinization and hitting civilian targets with missile strikes, which we lack the missile defense capacity to protect simultaneously.

Taking that island accomplishes nothing and costs us greatly.

Destroying the island would cost our allies greatly but would take their oil exports offline for years and thus accomplish our apparent strategic goals (assuming for a minute they aren't what Rubio just redefined them yet again to be).
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:16 am to
Why does Lil Marco even give him the time of day? It gives credence to him by going on his show
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:18 am to
It’s always been absurd that a key, well known Clinton operative became one of the main faces of ABC News.

“Unbiased” media. Smh.
Posted by LSUbacchus81
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:19 am to
But it’s not a war?
Posted by Deplorableinohio
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:46 am to
So we plan to invade Khartoum Island? How do you know that? I don’t know that. I know it’s an option, but there are no definitive plans to my knowledge. I would be one of the last, if not the last, to find out. Just like you!
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:54 am to
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So we plan to invade Khartoum Island? How do you know that? I don’t know that. I know it’s an option, but there are no definitive plans to my knowledge. I would be one of the last, if not the last, to find out. Just like you!

Axios: Trump Mulling Plans to Invade Kharg Island
Guardian: 17k US Ground Troops En Route to Middle East
quote:

“Watch Mark Levin interview of Brilliant Marc Thiessen tonight,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Will discuss the importance of hitting Iran, HARD!!!” - DJT, 3/29/2026

Daily Beast: Levin Calls for Ground Troops

Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:09 am to
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Why are we planning to invade Kharg Island with with 17k US ground troops (where’d Israel go btw?) if doing so accomplishes none of those things?


Why are you arguing as if it is guaranteed?

Do you not see how Trump threatening Kharg Island could be a negotiation tactic? Of course you don't.

Here's a simple question. Would letting Iran retain control likely lead to a shorter conflict or a longer one? Do you understand how taking away anything from Iran hinders their war effort?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:10 am to
It's amazing how many "conservatives" here sound exactly like Snuffaluphagus. I hope I never share a mind with the left.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:30 am to
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Why are you arguing as if it is guaranteed?

The commander of the marine corps reserve just sent a letter to the troops telling them to “ready for immediate action”.
Marine Lt Gen: “ready for immediate action”
There are 17k invasion troops en route.

Trump just told everyone to listen to Levin who is calling for an invasion.

Was it “guaranteed” that we would hit Iran when we sent multiple carrier task forces and half the air force into the region before we hit them? No.

Was it really, really likely that was about to happen? Yes.

Is anyone willing to go on record as opposing a ground invasion? Because we are clearly either about to launch one or strongly considering it.
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Here's a simple question. Would letting Iran retain control likely lead to a shorter conflict or a longer one? Do you understand how taking away anything from Iran hinders their war effort?

You don’t have to possess something to prevent its use.

Even if you ignore the fact that the ground invasion isn’t required to accomplish the goals Rubio outlined and set aside concerns with the overall strategy, the elimination of Kharg island as a useful means of facilitating the sale of oil by the Iranian regime can be achieved without an actual invasion.

As putting troops on the ground would put us on an escalation ladder to a full ground war with Iran which I believe is completely unwarranted given our other more pressing concerns and the casualties that we would suffer as a result we should avoid it at all costs.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 11:37 am
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:34 am to
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Why are we planning to invade Kharg Island with with 17k US ground troops (where’d Israel go btw?) if doing so accomplishes none of those things?


Do you think their oil money funds their ability to build drones and missiles?

I'm not for boots on the ground, but it does seem like youre being purposely dense here.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:39 am to
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Do you think their oil money funds their ability to build drones and missiles?

We have an entire fleet in the strait, no one can sell anything unless we say so.

Why do we need to invade to facilitate an outcome we’ve already achieved if that’s our actual goal and we could knock them out for 3+ years with some dumb bombs from B52s?
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:45 am to
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We have an entire fleet in the strait, no one can sell anything unless we say so.


And I guess we need to keep them there indefinitely to enforce the blockade?

Seems pretty expensive, and permanently consumes a very powerful navy chess piece that can't be deployed elsewhere.

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Why do we need to invade to facilitate an outcome we’ve already achieved if that’s our actual goal and we could knock them out for 3+ years with some dumb bombs from B52s?


Where in that clip did Rubio say we've achieved any objectives yet?
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 11:46 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:21 pm to
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And I guess we need to keep them there indefinitely to enforce the blockade

As opposed to keeping boots on the ground to keep them from using the island?
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Where in that clip did Rubio say we've achieved any objectives yet?

Trump says “weve won” daily.
Their Air Force is gone.
Their navy is gone.
Are there factories to be destroyed? If so what does that have to do with invading that island?

I was assuming we weren’t taking the Rubio hit at face value as I thought it was pretty accepted that the situation is really about oil, nukes or regime change unless you disagree?
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:29 pm to
Same
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:53 pm to
Did Tiny George, the manlet, learn anything about trying to ambush with no help?

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