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Why Doesn't JD Vance Just Take Over the Senate?
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:42 pm
Apparently he can do this. Mike Lee says he can walk into the Senate any time he wants and take Thune's place as leader of the Senate.
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:45 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:46 pm to idlewatcher
I would love to see him walk in and invoke the filibuster. Put them ALL on the record. Even the GOP turncoats.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:48 pm to AlterEd
VP can preside over the Senate, maintain order, and cast a vote when there’s a tie.
He cannot set the legislative process or agenda though
He cannot set the legislative process or agenda though
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:54 pm to AlterEd
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Mike Lee
Has spent too much time on X
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:56 pm to AlterEd
this must be done
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:57 pm to deltaland
VP is already the presiding chair. Thune isn't.
Edit: And I'm guessing Thune and the people who are against the talking filibuster are a whole helluva lot more experienced with the pros/cons of it than anyone or anything in the White House. Pandora's boxes don't get closed very easily in politics.
Edit: And I'm guessing Thune and the people who are against the talking filibuster are a whole helluva lot more experienced with the pros/cons of it than anyone or anything in the White House. Pandora's boxes don't get closed very easily in politics.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:57 pm to deltaland
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VP can preside over the Senate, maintain order, and cast a vote when there’s a tie.
He cannot set the legislative process or agenda though
Correct. I should have looked this up before starting this thread. He doesn't have the authority to set the agenda. Still yet, I wonder if he will preside over the proceedings when the bill comes to the floor.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:58 pm to AlterEd
Only if he does this:
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:59 pm to BeefSupreme
Bringing the wig party back. 
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:59 pm to AlterEd
Trump also has the authority to cock walk in there and take over debate sessions in the Senate.
Do both
Do both
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:01 pm to GRTiger
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Trump also has the authority to cock walk in there and take over debate sessions in the Senate.
Nah. It would be nice if he could, but that position is the VPs and the VPs alone.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:01 pm to AlterEd
A lot of y’all were taught civics by football coaches…and it shows.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:03 pm to Coastal Tiger
Mike Lee certainly was.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:04 pm to deltaland
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He cannot set the legislative process or agenda though
You obviously didn't watch House of Cards.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:05 pm to AlterEd
I can't remember the exact rule, but "Former Presidents of the United States shall be entitled to address the Senate upon appropriate notice to the Presiding Officer who shall thereupon make the necessary arrangements."
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:06 pm to Coastal Tiger
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A lot of y’all were taught civics by football coaches…and it shows.
It's not that. Did you listen to the video? Beck makes it sound as if he has that authority. Beck is wrong.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:09 pm to GRTiger
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"Former Presidents of the United States shall be entitled to address the Senate upon appropriate notice to the Presiding Officer who shall thereupon make the necessary arrangements."
This would give him the ability to make an address to the Senate, not take over their debate session. But he can't do that as a current sitting POTUS. Only former POTUSes.
What he could do though is convene a special session of Congress and address them all that way.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:16 pm to AlterEd
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not take over their debate session
Timing is both irrelevant and everything.
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But he can't do that as a current sitting POTUS
This is false. He's a former president. They'd at least have to adjudicate the rule.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:24 pm to GRTiger
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This is false. He's a former president. They'd at least have to adjudicate the rule.
It is not false. Also, as I said, he has stronger means of addressing the Senate. What he can do is convene a special session of Congress and address all of them at once.
No sitting president has ever tried to invoke Senate Rule XIX to address the Senate. He wouldn't need to. He has better ways of addressing them than trying to claim he is somehow the sitting and former President.
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