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Secretary Hegseth says the US attacked Iran because the US was tired of being tapped along
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:43 am
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:43 am
Just watched the presser with SecDef Hegseth.
A reporter from Lindell TV of all news organizations asked Hegseth why did the US decide to attack Iran now after the American people were told Operation Midnight Hammer obliterated Iran's nuclear facilities?
Hegseth told the reporter that US negotiators, Wittkoff and Kushner had worked in good faith to make a deal with Iran to come to an agreement on the end Iran's nuclear program and after lengthy negotiations it was determined the Iranians had no intention of making a deal that would satisfy US demands.
Said more succinctly, Trump was tired of the Iranians tapping the US along like they have done for the past 25 years when trying to get a deal that would prohibit Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
A reporter from Lindell TV of all news organizations asked Hegseth why did the US decide to attack Iran now after the American people were told Operation Midnight Hammer obliterated Iran's nuclear facilities?
Hegseth told the reporter that US negotiators, Wittkoff and Kushner had worked in good faith to make a deal with Iran to come to an agreement on the end Iran's nuclear program and after lengthy negotiations it was determined the Iranians had no intention of making a deal that would satisfy US demands.
Said more succinctly, Trump was tired of the Iranians tapping the US along like they have done for the past 25 years when trying to get a deal that would prohibit Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:47 am to Bass Tiger
Honestly we were the ones negotiating in bad faith. We decided on this war in January at least. The Iranians knew this which is why they were “tapping us along” in an effort to build up their missile and drone stores as much as possible before hostilities broke out.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:48 am to BOHICAMAN
“Give me what I want or I kill you” isn’t negotiating in good faith?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:49 am to BOHICAMAN
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Honestly we were the ones negotiating in bad faith. We decided on this war in January at least. The Iranians knew this which is why they were “tapping us along” in an effort to build up their missile and drone stores as much as possible before hostilities broke out.
You are really dumb. Go learn some history.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:50 am to kingbob
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“Give me what I want or I kill you” isn’t negotiating in good faith?
Well when you know what you’re demanding is something that the Iranian regime could never possibly give up it’s not real negotiations. We gave them no choice.
FYI I don’t really care and support the war on the Iranian regime. Just calling it like it is.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:51 am to BOHICAMAN
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Honestly we were the ones negotiating in bad faith.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:51 am to BOHICAMAN
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Honestly we were the ones negotiating in bad faith.
Incorrect. This has been Iran's policy all along, well before Trump ever ran for office.
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We decided on this war in January at least.
Effect, not cause.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:52 am to Root_User
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You are really dumb. Go learn some history
Some people aren't capable of rational thought.
You just have to leave them behind
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:53 am to BOHICAMAN
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Honestly we were the ones negotiating in bad faith. We decided on this war in January at least. The Iranians knew this which is why they were “tapping us along” in an effort to build up their missile and drone stores as much as possible before hostilities broke out.
I think it was obvious Trump wasn't going to do another Obama type agreement and that was the stumbling block.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:55 am to BOHICAMAN
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we were the ones negotiating in bad faith.
In a forum known for bad takes, you take first place.
And while I think the FAFO meme is grossly overused, few situations could be better described by it than the game the Iranians have been playing for almost 50 years.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:59 am to Bass Tiger
Everyone has known for decades that the Iranians were not going to voluntarily concede their nuclear weapons program. Our stated policy, across parties, has been that Iran cannot be permitted to have nuclear weapons.
This action is entirely compatible and consistent with bipartisan US messaging on this issue. It was a matter of backing up that policy with actions or simply standing by and allowing Iran to continue their policy of stringing us along until it is too late to stop them.
This appeared to be the most opportune time to strike to minimize risk to our forces and hitting Iran during a period of instability for them internally and with their Russian allies totally occupied with a significant war of their own in Eastern Europe.
If you truly stand behind the philosophy that the Iranians must be prevented from achieving nuclear weapons capabilities, then this operation is fully in line with that thinking, regardless of the fact that the interests absolutely overlap with those of Israel. It seems better to have the fight at our time of choosing and what is viewed as most advantageous to our side and not waiting until the Iranians force the issue, which would most certainly prove more advantageous for them.
It is almost certainly more desirable for this operation to be carried out with Trump at the helm then to have the issue become imminent with a Biden/Harris/RINO stooge running the show. Trump is a cautious actor in respect to putting a heavy footprint in the Middle East that would leave us vulnerable or potentially bogged down in quagmire.
It's obviously a risk with lots of unknowns, as is any military action, but the upsides are obviously immense if Iran can be legitimately dismantled as a major power in the region since they are the central facilitator and financier of most of the chaos across the entire region.
This action is entirely compatible and consistent with bipartisan US messaging on this issue. It was a matter of backing up that policy with actions or simply standing by and allowing Iran to continue their policy of stringing us along until it is too late to stop them.
This appeared to be the most opportune time to strike to minimize risk to our forces and hitting Iran during a period of instability for them internally and with their Russian allies totally occupied with a significant war of their own in Eastern Europe.
If you truly stand behind the philosophy that the Iranians must be prevented from achieving nuclear weapons capabilities, then this operation is fully in line with that thinking, regardless of the fact that the interests absolutely overlap with those of Israel. It seems better to have the fight at our time of choosing and what is viewed as most advantageous to our side and not waiting until the Iranians force the issue, which would most certainly prove more advantageous for them.
It is almost certainly more desirable for this operation to be carried out with Trump at the helm then to have the issue become imminent with a Biden/Harris/RINO stooge running the show. Trump is a cautious actor in respect to putting a heavy footprint in the Middle East that would leave us vulnerable or potentially bogged down in quagmire.
It's obviously a risk with lots of unknowns, as is any military action, but the upsides are obviously immense if Iran can be legitimately dismantled as a major power in the region since they are the central facilitator and financier of most of the chaos across the entire region.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:03 am to BOHICAMAN
Iran Hostage Crisis : Iranian students seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, holding 52 Americans hostage for 444 days.
Beirut Barracks Bombing: Hezbollah, backed by Iran, bombed the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon, killing 241 U.S. service members.
U.S. Embassy Bombing in Beirut: A suicide attack killed 17 Americans.
Kidnapping of Americans in Lebanon: Hezbollah kidnapped several Americans, including CIA station chief William Buckley, who was killed in 1985.
Khobar Towers Bombing: Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz was responsible for the truck bombing of a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S. service members.
Iraq War: Iran-backed militias killed 603 U.S. service members with advanced roadside bombs (EFPs).
Missile Attack on Ain al-Asad Air Base: Following the killing of Qasem Soleimani, Iran launched ballistic missiles at a base in Iraq, causing traumatic brain injuries to over 100 U.S. personnel.
Drone Attack on Tower 22: Kataib Hezbollah killed three U.S. soldiers in Jordan and wounded over 40.
Between October 2023 and November 2024, Iran and its proxies conducted over 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding over 180 service members.
So, which side is "negotiating" in bad faith again? Since 1979 Iran has been responsible for taking thousands of American lives. That negotiations were still even on the table should be shocking.
Beirut Barracks Bombing: Hezbollah, backed by Iran, bombed the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon, killing 241 U.S. service members.
U.S. Embassy Bombing in Beirut: A suicide attack killed 17 Americans.
Kidnapping of Americans in Lebanon: Hezbollah kidnapped several Americans, including CIA station chief William Buckley, who was killed in 1985.
Khobar Towers Bombing: Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz was responsible for the truck bombing of a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S. service members.
Iraq War: Iran-backed militias killed 603 U.S. service members with advanced roadside bombs (EFPs).
Missile Attack on Ain al-Asad Air Base: Following the killing of Qasem Soleimani, Iran launched ballistic missiles at a base in Iraq, causing traumatic brain injuries to over 100 U.S. personnel.
Drone Attack on Tower 22: Kataib Hezbollah killed three U.S. soldiers in Jordan and wounded over 40.
Between October 2023 and November 2024, Iran and its proxies conducted over 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding over 180 service members.
So, which side is "negotiating" in bad faith again? Since 1979 Iran has been responsible for taking thousands of American lives. That negotiations were still even on the table should be shocking.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:04 am to BOHICAMAN
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The Iranians knew this which is why they were “tapping us along” in an effort to build up their missile and drone stores as much as possible before hostilities broke out.
You think they only started building up when they thought hostilities were going to break out?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:05 am to ChewyDante
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Everyone has known for decades that the Iranians were not going to voluntarily concede their nuclear weapons program. Our stated policy, across parties, has been that Iran cannot be permitted to have nuclear weapons.
This action is entirely compatible and consistent with bipartisan US messaging on this issue. It was a matter of backing up that policy with actions or simply standing by and allowing Iran to continue their policy of stringing us along until it is too late to stop them.
I think you're right. I do wonder if this operation could have waited until after the midterms?
I think if the US achieves its objective and the operation is deemed a rousing success it could help Rs in the midterms. On the other hand if this thing drags out and the Rs lose the Congress I hate to think of how these Democratic Socialists are going to behave it they get power in 2026.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:06 am to RolltidePA
Why did you ChatGPT me a list of attacks on US interests in the region?
Agreed. It was all a dog and pony show. We decided to attack in at least January when it became evident that the regime was weaker than ever and knew this would be the best opportunity we’d likely ever get to effect regime change in Iran.
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That negotiations were still even on the table should be shocking
Agreed. It was all a dog and pony show. We decided to attack in at least January when it became evident that the regime was weaker than ever and knew this would be the best opportunity we’d likely ever get to effect regime change in Iran.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:07 am to BOHICAMAN
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Honestly we were the ones negotiating in bad faith.
When you start to find yourself on the side of religious Muslim zealots who think of women as cattle you may want to pause and reconsider.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:09 am to BOHICAMAN
Wrong. No one has any issue with countries utilizing nuclear power. However, countries who sole sponsor nationwide terrorism can not be allowed to have a nuclear weapons program.
When a satanist stands behind a podium and vows to nuke Israel, and the only thing standing in his way is time, I have no reason to doubt him.
When a satanist stands behind a podium and vows to nuke Israel, and the only thing standing in his way is time, I have no reason to doubt him.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:09 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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When you start to find yourself on the side of religious Muslim zealots who think of women as cattle you may want to pause and reconsider.
WTF are you talking about?
I’m in full support of this war against the Iranian regime and hope we do whatever it takes to install Iranian leadership that will be friendly, if at least not tolerable, to us and the other ME nations.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:10 am to BOHICAMAN
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We decided on this war in January at least.
Nope. We hadn't decided on it. We had planned for it in the event it became a course of action that had to be taken, but that decision had not been made.
One does not simply enter into negotiations with an opponent who is known for duplicity unless one has a back-up plan.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:10 am to BOHICAMAN
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Why did you ChatGPT me a list of attacks on US interests in the region?
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That negotiations were still even on the table should be shocking
Agreed. It was all a dog and pony show. We decided to attack in at least January when it became evident that the regime was weaker than ever and knew this would be the best opportunity we’d likely ever get to effect regime change in Iran.
If Iran was vulnerable to a US attack and they knew the outcome would be catastrophic for the Islamic Regime they should have made a deal with the US.....they had to know they were not dealing with Obama or Biden.
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