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Pats offense averaged 9 punts/turnovers per game in the playoffs
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:29 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:29 am
27 punts and 8 turnovers in 4 games
That is so bad. Also brings up something I have always thought, a punt should be viewed as a 0.5 turnover. You are quite literally turning the ball over to the other team
That is so bad. Also brings up something I have always thought, a punt should be viewed as a 0.5 turnover. You are quite literally turning the ball over to the other team
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:32 am to lsupride87
Historically bad offense.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:36 am to lsupride87
Them and the Bears this season were the luckiest teams I’ve seen in probably a decade.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:39 am to lsupride87
They were lucky to play opposite 2 of the worst post season QB perfomances ever... Stroud and stidham.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:43 am to lsupride87
quote:
something I have always thought, a punt should be viewed as a 0.5 turnover. You are quite literally turning the ball over to the other team
This is pretty dumb
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:52 am to JimTiger72
quote:Why?
This is pretty dumb
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:55 am to lsupride87
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:58 am to lsupride87
Stick to tennis
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:04 pm to JimTiger72
Tell me why punting it to your opponent and they get it on the 25 is ok but turning it over ion the 25 isnt?
It’s the same exact net effect. I say 0.5 of a turnover because of the times a turnover is worse because it happens on your end of the field
It’s the same exact net effect. I say 0.5 of a turnover because of the times a turnover is worse because it happens on your end of the field
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:10 pm to lsupride87
Comparing the Pats playoff run, who went up against easily three of the best defenses in the last 5 years, in a row, and another very solid unit in San Diego, and the 2017 Browns in the reg season is a monumentally stupid argument.
Pats average offensive scoring effeicnecy in the reg season was 0.469 Points per snap, which was second in the NFL....
Pats average offensive scoring effeicnecy in the reg season was 0.469 Points per snap, which was second in the NFL....
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:14 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:No taking into account the Pats had a historic regular season in terms of quality of opponent?
Comparing the Pats playoff run, who went up against easily three of the best defenses in the last 5 years, in a row, and another very solid unit in San Diego, and the 2017 Browns in the reg season is a monumentally stupid argument. Pats average offensive scoring effeicnecy in the reg season was 0.469 Points per snap, which was second in the NFL
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:15 pm to Splackavellie
Amazing we made it to the Super bowl in the first place considering the lack of talent on the offensive side.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:29 pm to lsupride87
How you can tell that you have a DC as a HC.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:37 pm to Tiger Ryno
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They were lucky to play opposite 2 of the worst post season QB perfomances ever... Stroud and stidham.
And Herbert behind a turnstile line.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 2:27 pm to lsupride87
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quote:
This is pretty dumb
Why?
Why would you need to count a punt as half a turnover. Turnovers is a tracked statistic, punts is also a tracked statistic. No need to combine the too.
In short, what is improved by this proposal?
Using the Patriots numbers, you would be saying they turned the ball over 21.5 times in the playoffs. That's convoluted.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 2:51 pm to Wayne Campbell
quote:Because you never really hear people talk about punts as an “offensive stat”
Why would you need to count a punt as half a turnover. Turnovers is a tracked statistic, punts is also a tracked statistic. No need to combine the too. In short, what is improved by this proposal? Using the Patriots numbers, you would be saying they turned the ball over 21.5 times in the playoffs. That's convoluted.
You will hear “the offense did a good job protecting the defense and playing safe”
Zero turnovers but 8 punts
“The offense really hurt the defense with its turnovers”
3 turnovers and 1 punt
I would argue that scenario A is worse most of the time
A drive down to the opponent 10 and then a fumble is far better than a 3 and out punt. But people would never view it that way for some reason
You hear “turnovers kill you” but nobody gives a shite about punts
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:13 pm to lsupride87
I disagree with just about the whole premise.
Turnovers are generally seen as worse than a punt because they usually kill momentum and/or result in better field position for the opposing team. Punting is a strategic choice.
But yeah, people generally think that punting a whole lot is bad.
Turnovers are generally seen as worse than a punt because they usually kill momentum and/or result in better field position for the opposing team. Punting is a strategic choice.
But yeah, people generally think that punting a whole lot is bad.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:41 pm to Wayne Campbell
Average lost EPA of a turnover is exactly double for a punt
Hence why I said a punt should be used as half a turnover…. They shouldn’t be viewed separately when judging offensive efficiency
Hence why I said a punt should be used as half a turnover…. They shouldn’t be viewed separately when judging offensive efficiency
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:52 pm to lsupride87
But but ..Drake Main s the new Tom Brady!!!
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