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Movies today don’t even look and feel like “movies” at all

Posted on 2/6/26 at 11:17 am
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 11:17 am
Ever since film production companies abandoned 35 mm and went straight to digital in the mid to late 2010s, Hollywood movies don’t even have that “cinematic” film aesthetic anymore. They look like artificial, ultra-refined, and digitalized with poor lighting that gives almost no shadowing to actors at all. As a result, movies look like insurance commercials now.

35 mm was the gold-standard for filmmaking from the 1960s all the way up until around 2015-2016. Due to the fact that the tiniest errors in exposure and development are very difficult to correct with 35 mm, it basically forced filmmakers and directors to already have pre-visualized shots in place before shooting. Combine that with perfected hard lighting, and you get the “cinematic” film feel that dominated Hollywood for close to 50 years.

Even those shitty low-budget comedy films from the late 90s/early 2000s had better lighting than most of the high-budget Marvel films that come out now. That should tell you something.

Nowadays, movies use solely digital and soft lighting which is the reason why they all look so incredibly bland and generic with no feel at all. We need to go back to 35 mm. Nothing will ever top it. Who gives a frick about if it’s “too outdated”? It was used for 50 fricking years by most Hollywood film companies.




Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 11:45 am to
Sinners and One Battle were both shot on 35mm. Hell One Battle was shot on Vista Vision.

It's one of the primary reason both feel like actual movies again and not all the schlok. And neither one is even very good, but they are going to. Dominate the Oscars.

One Battle technically is briliant though. Dolly shots and boom shots and pans and long lenses, etc. All staples of old Hollywood. Hardly anyone does that anymore due to expense, laziness, lack of culture, and more.

It's a terrible thing that happened to films. Losing great original scores with real orchestra's and great composers has been a huge loss too.

It's very sad, actially, if you're a film fan.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 11:56 am to
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One Battle technically is briliant though


Even though that was shot on 35 mm, it still doesn’t have that “cinematic” feel like the oldies. It still looks very artificial and cheap for a film that has an $130 million budget.

I guess there’s a lot more to lighting and camera placement that affect how a movie looks.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 12:15 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:04 pm to
As someone that has 0 knowledge about how films are made, is this why it seems impossible to understand people? I feel like I need captions constantly.

Is that because of how films are made or because how TVs are made now?
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 7:02 pm
Posted by StansberryRules
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:07 pm to
Movies cost more than ever to make while simultaneously looking much cheaper

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This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 5:28 pm
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:30 pm to
Lighting was infinitely better in films from the 2000s
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:52 pm to
The overuse of cgi and modern color grading also adds to the fake look of everything.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:52 pm to
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is this why it seems impossible to understand people?


That's due to advances in microphone technology. You used to have a guy with a boom mic, and actors had to talk loud enough and clear enough for the mic to hear it well. Now, they all wear nearly-invisible mics and the actors mumble and whisper. Add to that the sound mixing doesn't adjust for this most of the time, because frick you, that's why.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:56 pm to
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Now, they all wear nearly-invisible mics and the actors mumble and whisper. Add to that the sound mixing doesn't adjust for this most of the time, because frick you, that's why.


Nolan just went from 6 to midnight
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3925 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 1:19 pm to
Modern color grading is absolute fricking dogshit. Do directors and filmmakers these days not look at films like The Matrix and how color grading made that film so successful?
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 1:25 pm to
I wish i could see a side by side to understand
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 1:34 pm to
Villeneuve is particularly bad about this. Look at his Dune movies and how everyone has a brown/tan look to it. His Blade Runner movie is like this too.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:09 pm to
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Modern color grading is absolute fricking dogshit. Do directors and filmmakers these days not look at films like The Matrix and how color grading made that film so successful?


I also find there’s a growing trend of dark arse scenes where I can see anything else I get the angle just right.
Posted by meeple
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:30 pm to
There was a thread a few months ago that linked to a video describing how new films and lack of depth of field, among other things just result in lifeless movies now. I’m probably not summarizing it adequately enough.

ETA: Found the video

This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 2:34 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70633 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:35 pm to
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modern color grading


This is a big problem right here. The colorists legitimately suck these days. Everyone wants things to be so dark and grim. The world is a very colorful place. Stop muting it.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

There was a thread a few months ago that linked to a video describing how new films and lack of depth of field, among other things just result in lifeless movies now. I’m probably not summarizing it adequately enough.


Good video.

I appreciate them using LOTR as an example. IMO this is also why you’ll see pushback on heavier AI involved editing. This is also part of that “soul” we were discussing in that thread.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Movies today don’t even look and feel like “movies” at all

The Last Jedi
Posted by U
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:42 pm to
“No one wants to do lighting anymore” -tarantino
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4310 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:43 pm to
Days of Thunder was on TV the other day. Tuned into it just for background noise. Just your basic 90's popcorn flick. Every time I looked up on the screen I was amazed how beautiful and how much ambiance comes through on screen from the cinematography. I don't know enough about movie making to know why it was different compared to how they make movies today. It was one of those things that struck me was just how much better this movie looks than anything I've seen come out recently.





Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3925 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:20 pm to
A Few Good Men was also another early 90s film that stuck out to me in terms of how good the lighting was. The lighting and color grading for the courtroom scene was so damn good that it looked like a painting.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 3:23 pm
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