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We shouldn't deport killers.

Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:40 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:40 pm
The Washington _____ reported:

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On April 20, 1999, the nation’s attention was fixed on a shooting massacre that occurred at Columbine High School near Littleton, Colorado, killing 12 students and one teacher. That same day, in the small southern Minnesota town of Waseca, another horror was unfolding: Jayme Larson, 16, returned home from school to find the body of her 12-year-old sister, Cally Jo, stabbed, sexually assaulted and left hanging in the stairwell of their bungalow.

It took police nearly a year to find the man who would be convicted. He turned out to be Lorenzo Bahena Sanchez, a Mexican citizen in the United States illegally who is now serving a life sentence in Minnesota Correctional Facility-Stillwater. The soonest he could be released on parole is 2030. The review process will begin in early 2027, and Cally’s family has vowed to fight every step of the way.

Cally’s loved ones now have a new terror: Under the Trump administration’s aggressive immigration enforcement effort, Sanchez might be turned over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, deported and sent elsewhere, perhaps to his native Mexico, where he might walk free....

“We do not care if he was born here or born in Mexico, he committed a crime here. He needs to finish his sentence here — where we know exactly where he is and we know that he won’t hurt anyone else,” Chad wrote Tuesday. “We want him to take his last breath in a Minnesota prison. When he is up for parole in about a year, we will be there demanding he remain in prison. Until that time, we are seeking confirmation that he will never be turned over to ICE for deportation.”

President Donald Trump has repeatedly pledged to deport the “worst of the worst” immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally, calling out rapists, murderers and other felons. Sanchez would certainly appear to fall into that category.

That, however, is what terrifies Cally’s family. According to Schnell, there is an active ICE detainer on Sanchez — an order for him to be turned over to federal authorities.....

Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin pointed out, in response to an inquiry by The Washington Post, that the way detainers — such as the one that applies to Sanchez — work is that “the criminals serve their time and then are turned over to ICE. They aren’t taken out prematurely before they serve their time.”

But in an interview, Schnell said handing over incarcerated inmates to ICE is indeed a new policy that is being sought by border czar Tom Homan and top officials, as part of ongoing negotiations that could lead to the withdrawal of the surge of thousands of enforcement personnel in Minneapolis.

“We’ve been asked to release people from our custody who are actively serving sentences, and that’s not something that we have an interest in doing,” Schnell said.

The administration’s desire to take custody of prisoners who are here illegally has also been expressed publicly by top Trump officials on a number of occasions.

To bring about “a clear and simple path to restoring law and order in Minnesota,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said at a briefing last week, “number one, Governor Walz, Mayor Frey, and all Democrat leaders should turn over all criminal illegal aliens currently incarcerated in their prisons and jails to federal authorities, along with any illegal aliens with active warrants or known criminal histories for immediate deportation.”



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Sorry. Killers should serve their sentences before being deported. You kill someone here, you should be executed or get life without parole. Period. No going back home to hang with your bros, f your woman, and hang out on the beach all day drinking rum.

I'm all for honoring detainers on those arrested sitting in county and city jails. However, if it's a serious crime, they need to do the time and do it here before they are deported .


Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:43 pm to
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The Washington _____ reported:

Can you clarify what, if anything, you’re attempting to convey with this exact part?
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12838 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:03 pm to
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However, if it's a serious crime, they need to do the time and do it here before they are deported .


Definitely, unless the destination country agree to putting them in prison.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57475 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:08 pm to
Do you trust other countries to do it?
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
2068 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:20 pm to
Deport him to Henderson, Louisiana. It's crawfish season.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
954 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:21 pm to
This isn't a federal issue. Justice for the murderer is a state issue. When the state is through with the murderer, the federal government gets him out of the country. If he gets off, it will be because the state justice system does not punish murderers.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48657 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:46 pm to
Absolutely keep him in custody as long as possible - then parachute him into the Congo naked and hungry..
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4990 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:24 pm to
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Sorry. Killers should serve their sentences before being deported.


IMO, if they are serving a life sentence, let's make their sentence very short and execute them. Saves tax payers tens of thousands of dollars per inmate, and saves taxpayers expense of a plane ticket out of the country. It's a win/win!!
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16346 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:30 pm to
If they did the crime here they should do the time here.
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1045 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:31 pm to
Is there a SINGLE example of the Trump administration deporting someone convicted of murder in the US, and that person being released in their home country? I’m going out on a limb and saying no.

This is more fear-mongering and hand-wringing by the press. They normally support releasing murderers anyways so I don’t see what the big deal is.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18897 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:33 pm to
Deport them in coffins. Now everyone is happy!??
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127079 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Sorry. Killers should serve their sentences before being deported.


Eh. If Honduras would take him in their jail, send him to Honduras.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22346 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:39 pm to
You pay the full penalty where the offense was committed.

This is human society 101 level stuff here
Posted by reelingintheyears
Member since Jan 2026
310 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:40 pm to
DC may believe we don’t need to deport killers, but that’s bull.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 8:00 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127079 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:44 pm to
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You pay the full penalty where the offense was committed.


So like on the same block?
Posted by uggabugga
Member since Aug 2024
3768 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:47 pm to
i just came here to post this story. after the WTF headline, 'Minnesota child’s family doesn’t want ICE to deport her murderer', you then find that it's because the family doesn't want him to go free in Meh-Hee-Ko. Ah, that at least makes a little sense.

But then you come across this:


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The soonest he could be released on parole is 2030.


that's only 4 years away, and in wackadoodle MN they'd probably find a way to get him out even earlier than that. And probably give him keys to the city, knowing how twisted that state is.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
19994 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:51 pm to
It is too bad people went soft on violent crime. With an immediate death for the crime after sentencing there would be far less crime.

Might there be a few who are put to death but were innocent? Maybe. But there would still be far less violent crime and a much more peaceful societal existence.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22346 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:54 pm to
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So like on the same block?


Ah another retard who is trying quibble about what crime and punishment really means
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7496 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:58 pm to
The only option is the death penalty.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127079 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:19 pm to
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Ah another retard who is trying quibble about what crime and punishment really means


You made the retard argument. I pointed it out and your feelings got hurt, I guess.
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