Tirzepatide vs Reta

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Qsc, bba have it

I've taken both and have had success with both. I'll give you my 2 cents.

Both are effective. I find that Tirz is much better at appetite suppression and helps more with reduced cravings, which for me, made to easy to turn down sweets and alcohol. That's not to say that Reta doesn't suppress appetite, just that Tirz is better.

With Tirz, I had almost zero side effects. Some people get fatigued, but I never had that problem. Constipation was the only side effect.

With Reta, that isn't a problem, but I do have issues with sleep, which I am finding out is a common side effect. I believe it is because Reta increases your heartrate and metabolism, and that causes the sleep issues. Even with the sleep issues, I am still consistently getting 7+ hrs each night.

I took Tirz for about 15 months and lost 75 lb in the first 9 months. In the next three months, I had hit a wall and couldn't seem to get below 17 %BF. I then titrated down over three months, which was recommended by my doctor, to help prevent any rebounding of weight.

Flash forward a year, I am now taking Reta after doing a 6 month bulk. I started titrating up after Thanksgiving. I started taking it to help with the holidays. I started a 500 cal per day deficit in the begging of January. I have maintained muscle and am down 5 lb of fat, going from 19.7% down to 17.5% BF.

What was your dosing on Tirz and on Reta...starting and then end point. ALso did you do once or twice a week?

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I've been getting it from a place in China and then commissioning indeendent 3rd party tests of it in the US.

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I am very diligent about still hitting my cals and macros (currently targeting 2200: 180ish protein, 220ish, carb, 70ish fat).

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This is very close to my macro goals at the moment and I am easily able to hit them while on Reta.

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This entire week on 2, I feel almost normally hungry...so I plan to go up to 2.5 etc etc until i hit 4-6. Does this sound right?

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If it were me, I would skip the 500 mcg jumps and go strait to 3 mg and see how you feel. If you feel good then go to 4 after a couple of weeks and then to 6. When I jumped to 6mg is when I noticed the appetite suppression being similar to my experience with Tirz.

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his is very close to my macro goals at the moment and I am easily able to hit them while on Reta.

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I don't completely understand the caloric deficit situation. Let's say this cal level is exactly replacement for me. I'm also doing 3 high intensity hypertrophic workout sessions/week + a HIIT and a sprint series per week. Given this program, should I expect continued lean gains while also melting fat? Or do I need to just eat less anyway?

How quickly will I start seeing noticeable fat melt? I'm about 6 weeks in now and not sure I've seen any.

Phase 2

Phase 3

Only issue, and it was mentioned, is Reta raises resting heart rate, tirz can be better for appetite suppressant effects but this causes many to undereat too much


So here is the deal on calories, use the muscle hacking leangains macro calculator as a starting point, setting it for 500 deficit, 0 steps per day and as normal muscle mass. That is your macros, do do maintenance then think that will get you there, don’t do that


So do the above, lift heavy 2-4 times per week

Stat your steps at 8k per day.

Weigh each day and take 2 week rolling average, if you are not going down after two weeks, bump the steps to 10k…then 12, then 14, then 16…keep until you hit 20k.

Trust me this works. Don’t lower calories. After you stalled on 20k steps, lower calories from fat and carbs by ~500 and then start back at 8k steps and keep going. Most never have to reset though. Some even go to 25k steps and even up to 30k but that is huge time commitment

That’s how you hold on to muscle mass while stripping fat systematically

For Reta, minimum effective dose. Pairs great with try, low dose gh, and glow