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Hot Take: It's terrible strategy to deport in solid blue states

Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:33 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:33 pm
What good does working to deport illegals in Portland, OR or Minneapolis, MN do for our beautiful populist movement? You face rabid opposition, the states are out of reach anyhow, and the political bleauxback is definitely not worth it. We risk fumbling the bag nationally to deport 10,000 illegals in states that we will never win.

The political cost versus the potential reward in ANY city in any RED swing state or near swing state like Arizona, Nevada, Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, Ohio, Florida, Iowa, Tennessee is a much more attractive proposition.

NO rabid pushback from the locals. No national talking points for team blue. No negative headlines. Just deportation and beautification / improvement of quality of life for actual tax-paying Americans. Bonus that you're likely deporting Democrat votes in the process, making it easier to win in future elections.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 3:35 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26900 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:34 pm to
Sounds like they’re doing both and can handle multiple operations at a time.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63963 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

What good does working to deport illegals in Portland, OR or Minneapolis, MN do for our beautiful populist movement? You face rabid opposition, the states are out of reach anyhow, and the political bleauxback is definitely not worth it. We risk fumbling the bag nationally to deport 10,000 illegals in states that we will never win.

The political cost versus the potential reward in ANY city in any RED swing state or near swing state like Arizona, Nevada, Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, Ohio, Florida, Iowa, Tennessee is a much more attractive proposition.

NO rabid pushback from the locals. No national talking points for team blue. No negative headlines.


It packs the House seats in those lawless areas and gives the leftists control of the country.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
180641 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:35 pm to
SFP has been pushing this. It was naive when he said it and still is when you say it


Illegals will just move to states BP is not operating in
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103603 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:36 pm to
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Sounds like they’re doing both and can handle multiple operations at a time.


Why not take all the ICE agents in Minnesota and move them to Iowa and Ohio and Georgia and Texas and Nevada though?

Who cares about MSP and Portland? I live in Portland and I'd rather think strategically.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 3:37 pm
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6059 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:36 pm to
You assume it's getting negative feedback because that's what the MSM wants you to think. The silent majority approves. Who knows, this show of force might increase self-deportations.
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103603 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:37 pm to
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Illegals will just move to states BP is not operating in


GOOD! Then their kids will likely live in blue states as well and won't swing close states like GA and Florida in future elections.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8048 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:37 pm to
What matters more? Politics or laws?

In a Republic it would be laws.


If the media is shaping your opinion, I would suggest the perception they present isn’t accurate, but certainly intentional.

Communist need demoralization to have their way. They use lies to arrive at that objective. Keep that in mind.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 3:40 pm
Posted by The Pickwick
Member since Jan 2025
581 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Hot Take: It's terrible strategy to deport in solid blue states


Are you under the assumption that the main reason ICE is in MN is to actually deport illegals?
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103603 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:38 pm to
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It packs the House seats in those lawless areas and gives the leftists control of the country.


We do not (nor will we ever) control any house seats in MSP, Portland, Los Angeles, Richmond, San Fran, Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, etc.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 3:39 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
180641 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:38 pm to
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GOOD! Then their kids will likely live in blue states as well and won't swing close states like GA and Florida in future elections.



And those blue states will get more house seats than red states

Are you stupid?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470808 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:39 pm to
It's become an emotional thing for people who consider that a loss.

muh fight silliness.

It's about feelings and virtue signaling more than facts and logic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470808 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:39 pm to
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Illegals will just move to states BP is not operating in

Why aren't they doing it now in a way to affect the successful red states?
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103603 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

What matters more? Politics or laws?

In a Republic it would be laws.



strat·e·gy

noun
a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
180641 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

We do not (nor will we ever) control any house seats in MSP, Portland, Los Angeles, Richmond, San Fran, Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, etc.




Dude, do you even know how the allocation of house seats work?
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
12172 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

It packs the House seats in those lawless areas and gives the leftists control of the country.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3330 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:40 pm to
It's very likely those blue states are blue because of election fraud. Do you believe that the majority of voters in those state really want to live in those dem run environments?

What is likely happening in those blue states is that the media is pounding it into the citizens heads that everyone want these crazy far left ideologies. The reality is that a small vocal minority wants it and the larger majority is being silenced.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470808 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

What matters more? Politics or laws?

In a Republic it would be laws.

This doesn't make any sense and is based in the false premise that all laws are being executed equally everywhere right now (update: they are not)

Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29501 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:40 pm to
It's way worse not to deport there.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470808 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

It's very likely those blue states are blue because of election fraud. Do you believe that the majority of voters in those state really want to live in those dem run environments?

Um...yes? Why wouldn't they?
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