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Collagen to heal tendinitis?

Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:05 pm
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:05 pm
Combined with Vit C.
Anyone here of this?

BPC injections having just a little effect after a week
Posted by DrDenim
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:58 pm to
I gave it a shot, but have abandoned it. I've become convinced that there is no credible scientific evidence that prove collagen's efficacy. I went through a few canisters of collagen peptides and I haven't seen any evidence that's it's doing anything for me.
Posted by PrezCock
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:11 am to
I view taking collagen as giving my body the building blocks to treat tendinopathies. But they are just that, building blocks. It's up to you to put your body in the position to use those building blocks.

There's a few things you can do. Most tendinopathies are non-inflammatory. Inflammation is the body's response to damage. It is the healing response. It's gotten a bad reputation because the body tends to go completely overboard.

You can go the non-inflammatory route. If it's acute, rest. If not, doing eccentrics and heavy slow resistance (HSR; tempo training 3-0-3) to rebuild those tendons. Use weights that you can feel your dysfunction with minimal pain (1-2/10).

Or you can go the inflammatory route (Rippetoe). Pretty much increase intensity and volume to induce/increase inflammation so the body can heal it.

Of course there's always medications/supplements like BPC or Cortisone injections. I find those have success rates at 50/50.

Hope this helps.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 7:07 am to
Good advice here.
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:48 pm to
From your post in another thread:

quote:

If it is still bothering you, after that time frame, then I would say you are in the chronic stage of tendinopathy (tendinosis)


This is me I guess. Bothering me since Oct/Nov. BPC didn’t help. What do I do now?
Posted by PrezCock
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:19 am to
quote:

What do I do now?


Start by gently stretching the muscle. Static for 60 seconds or so. Do 3 sets.

Use myofascial release on the muscle (massage gun/lacrosse ball/etc..).

Find a motion that you can feel the tendinitis the most. Use an intensity (weight) that you can feel a little bit of that dysfunction and a little bit of pain (1-2/10).

Use that weight for 3 sets of 8 repetitions doing Heavy Slow Resistance (HSR). HSR is 3 seconds in the concentric phase (shortening of the muscle), 0 seconds transition, and 3 seconds in the eccentric phase (lengthening of the muscle).

Gentle stretching after.

Do this 3-4 times a week. This will not be a quick process. Expect to do this for 12 weeks, give or take.

Hope this helps.
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:18 pm to
Thank you I appreciate it!!!
Posted by PrezCock
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:23 pm to
quote:


Thank you I appreciate it!!!


Of course, no worries.
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 9:40 am to
Guess I’m an idiot.
Can’t really come up with a plan.
Can you lay it out for me like I’m in kindergarten?
Golfer elbow left
Tennis elbow right
Thought tendinitis but it’s been since October so probably tendinopathy
Posted by PrezCock
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:11 am to
No worries.

Golfer's Elbow (medical epicondylitis). 95% of the time it's cause by your pronator teres. So stretch it by putting your forearm into supination (palm up). 3 sets of 60 seconds, feel the pull in the muscle. Use a massage gun or lacrosse ball on that muscle (Google location of pronator teres)

Do heavy slow resistance (HSR 3-0-3 tempo) of pronation/supination movement. Think of holding a bowling pin upside down with your arm extended out in front of you. Then rotating the top of the pin to both sides.

Tennis Elbow (lateral epicondylitis) usually extensor carpi radials brevis. Stretch and myofascial release. Forearm flexion/extension using a DB with your fist off the edge of the table will work. Palm side down.

Do 3 sets of 8 reps using that tempo for both exercises. Stretch the muscles again after.

Hope that helps. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions.
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Forearm flexion/extension using a DB with your fist off the edge of the table will work. Palm side down.


Can you dumb this down just a little? What exactly do I do with the DB?
You’re way smarter than I.
Thank you!!
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 3:51 pm
Posted by PrezCock
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:58 pm to
This exercise...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aeE_Lh-KWZQ

But doing HSR. Tempo is 3 seconds concentric, 0 seconds hold, 3 seconds eccentric. To make it simpler, take 3 seconds to go up and 3 seconds to go down without pausing.
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 4:27 pm to
Ok thank you. Perfect.
Should I feel the tendinitis or pain at all during the movement?
Posted by PrezCock
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
889 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Should I feel the tendinitis or pain at all during the movement?


Use an intensity (weight) that you can feel a little bit of that dysfunction and a little bit of pain (1-2/10). When you don't feel that pain/dysfunction anymore increase the weight until it's back to a 1-2/10.

As I said, usually it takes around 12 weeks. If you are feeling good in week 8 keep doing the exercises. After the 12 weeks try to incorporate those exercises, or variations of, once or twice a week.

In the meantime, Golfer's and Tennis Elbow are all about your grip. You can start to use straps to hold on to the bar and even use "tennis elbow forearm straps" to decrease the tension on your epicondyles (where those muscles connect to the elbow).
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:55 pm to
Thank you Prez. You have a PT background? Lots of great info.

Last thing…
Flex bar. You like exercises with it? I started them and I think my elbows hurt worse now. Hope I’m not undoing healing
Posted by PrezCock
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Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:25 pm to
PT and S&C. With that being said, any advice you get on here is just that, advice. I'm not able to "diagnose" conditions without examining someone. So I answer questions in a matter of fact way. I don't know if you have tendinitis or not, but I'm just answering your question of "how to treat...".

Flex bars are good for grip work. I don't have anything against them. I would say lay off of it until your elbows are feeling much better. Tendonitis usually happen when people incorporate something new. Something those muscles aren't conditioned for. With your case, you probably started some new exercise when this began that worked those muscles harder or in a different way.
Posted by pwejr88
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Member since Apr 2007
37725 posts
Posted on 1/30/26 at 9:28 pm to
That all makes perfect sense.
And I think my form got bad going too heavy on kneeling, single-arm cable lat pull-downs.

Thanks again. You rock
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:46 am to
Depends on the collagen you are using. If you are using the Vital Proteins that comes in the blue can that you can get at Costco and WalMart etc it’s garbage. Also, it takes several weeks of consistent use to start getting benefits. 20g a day isn’t going to do anything other than make your fingernails and hair grow. You need closer to 60g a day for 10 to 12 weeks to see any difference for training purposes.
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Vital Proteins that comes in the blue can that you can get at Costco and WalMart etc it’s garbage


Post a link for a good one
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 11:33 am to
Hi me again
How do I stretch the tendon in tendinitis elbow?
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