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re: Jose Vargas

Posted on 2/18/09 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78360 posts
Posted on 2/18/09 at 10:17 pm to
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Cad, that's too much.


What is sad is alot of people knew me by my vehicle when i was at LSU. I guess my anonymity would be gone right now if everyone I went to school with wasn't dead or senile.

jk

eta I officially felt old when they trotted out the 86 Final Four team in the tourney back in 2006 and i saw how old they all looked. :\
This post was edited on 2/18/09 at 10:18 pm
Posted by LSU Weirdo
Germantown
Member since Mar 2006
795 posts
Posted on 2/18/09 at 10:18 pm to
That game against Oklahoma @ UNO was insane. I still had in on video tape, until Katrina drowned it. Jose was on fire.

Jose had this one dunk that he called the "Cobra Dunk". I don't think he ever did it in a game, but he would do it while goofing around, or in practice. Imagine your elbow pointed at the goal, with your wrist up by your forehead. Then, he would kinda stab the ball through the hoop and quickly pull his hand back... like a cobra strike. It was funny.

His in-game dunks were fierce, and they were as momentum-inspiring as Shaq's were. The Assembly Center would ERUPT.
This post was edited on 2/18/09 at 10:20 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78360 posts
Posted on 2/18/09 at 10:20 pm to
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His in-game dunks were fierce


+1 gazillion
Posted by bouefbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
2320 posts
Posted on 2/18/09 at 10:30 pm to
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Had a part-time job at Steinberg's down town for a few weeks back in those days. Jose and some other players walked in to talk to the mgr/owner. That was the biggest dude I've ever seen. Oh and also the darkest. Always said if there was ever a fight, I'd want to be on Jose's team. Did not get to talk to him but seemed like a nice guy.

Didn't Zoran have a car wreck or something and injure an ankle? He was out a few weeks.


Spec's I worked across the street at S&S in college and the players were always around picking up their comp Converse shoes
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 2/18/09 at 10:38 pm to
I loved Jose and anyone who could match Greg Cook elbow for elbow is a true man!!!!!! The Cookieman (RIP) was the baddest man ever to play at LSU. Nobody and I mean nobody dunked on the Cookieman. I remember the 79 SEC tournament Kentucky was running out the clock at end of first half. Dwight Anderson took off down the lane and cocked back to try a one handed dunk. He was met by Cook and Tree Green and ended up with a broken wrist!!!! Nuff said

Rudy40
Posted by LA007
Monroe
Member since Nov 2008
1778 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 12:33 am to
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My favorite memory of Jose is during a timeout, the camera focused on Daddy Dale. All you could hear Dale say was "Jose, DON'T SHOOT!!!"

First time he touched the ball.....up goes a brick...Gotta love Jose...


True... but favorite? Hilarious nightmare with Dale, yes, in that sense.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:48 am to
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Ok, in '86 watched Kentucky game at Sports Illustrated. Crowd went wild on Anthony Wilson's shot.


Uh...Memphs State game?

or Ricky Blanton's shot?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:50 am to
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the student section was just killing this guy from Vandy named Alex Kessler.


Kessler played at UGA. You're probably thinking of either Frank Kornett or Will Purdue.
Posted by tigermike200444
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2003
9106 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 5:32 am to
dale found shaq in germany where his dad was stationed.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6611 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:36 am to
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You're probably thinking of either Frank Kornett or Will Purdue.
I nailed Will Perdue in the grape with a balled up newspaper in the Assembly Center ca. 1987. Me and my two buddies brought a roll of masking tape to the Vandy game and each covertly made about five tight newspaper balls. When the time came – as most of the papers from the student section were gently floating down to the floor – about half of our projectiles rained down directly on the Vandy bench. They weren’t very happy.

We brought the tape to the next game but there was a significant increase in the number of folks watching over the student section that day and we decided to wuss out.

Actually, I have no way to know that I hit big Will…but I’d like to think I did.

Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4006 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:58 am to
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I loved Jose and anyone who could match Greg Cook elbow for elbow is a true man!!!!!! The Cookieman (RIP) was the baddest man ever to play at LSU. Nobody and I mean nobody dunked on the Cookieman. I remember the 79 SEC tournament Kentucky was running out the clock at end of first half. Dwight Anderson took off down the lane and cocked back to try a one handed dunk. He was met by Cook and Tree Green and ended up with a broken wrist!!!!


Lionel Green and Al Green! They are part of my first memories of Dale ball. Cook, Macklin, Scales, Martin same era. Al Green could throw down. The Assembly Center was always rocking.

Oh, I loved the uniforms too. The stars on the shorts. Script letters. I vote for retro look for a few games. Todays uniforms are alright, but lack flair. Not a fan of Geaux Font.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
20014 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 7:20 am to
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dale found shaq in germany where his dad was stationed


He asked him "Soldier, where is your CO?" and Shaq said something like "Sir, I'm only 13 years old".
Posted by CreoleAubie
NC
Member since Sep 2008
2909 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:55 am to
He used to be called "Jose the Hackmaster" when he would come to AU to play. He was a bad arse....I remember Dale Brown telling him during one timeout "if you get the ball, DO NOT SHOOT".
This post was edited on 2/19/09 at 8:56 am
Posted by CreoleAubie
NC
Member since Sep 2008
2909 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:08 am to
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Check out this piece from Sport's Illustrated on him.


Dude - thanks so much for posting this article. Brought back so many memories. I loved Brown - even as I hated that he could never win the big one. But loved him as a person. Went to his camps 5 years in a row and was always enamored. This is typical Dale from that article:

...He immediately phoned Brown, who rounded up some players and some baseball bats. "Justice wasn't served," Brown says. "So we formed our own little vigilante group."

You gotta love it....who else can you say is like that in coaching these days??!!
Posted by LSUHowat
Olive Branch, MS
Member since Jun 2006
163 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:18 am to
My brother Dean who is roomate with Jose and bet they were a good time
Posted by BrockLanders
By Appointment Only
Member since Sep 2008
6507 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:30 am to
In the Indiana '87 game, Jose had a blocking foul called on him, so he got right in the referee's face - but instead he clapped several times with those huge arms.

I know there was another game where they were winning by like 20 with a minute left to go - and Jose called a timeout.
This post was edited on 2/19/09 at 9:32 am
Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
2080 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:37 am to
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Nikita: We played hard. Well they played hard too. We had good offense and they had good offense. Wait what I said??


Hey Cad, this is linedrivefloater qua 'rantavious'!

Thanks for the memories! My favorite BB player interview had to be one with Shawn Griggs and Jordy (I think). I remember being in my friend's apartment ready to watch the game, he was a bit of a newbie to LSU basketball but my other friends and I were willing to work with him because he had a nice TV!! So we are sitting there listening(?) to Shawn Griggs and Jordy in the pre-game interview when I notice a look of puzzlement on my friend's face. Before I can say anything, he raises off the couch, strides over to his TV and smacks the cabinet a coupla of times to "tune"? it better. My friends and I started laughing so hard we couldn't catch our breath to tell him that that it was a 'Shawn Griggs' thing and his set was ok!

WOW, good times. That guy was a freak on the defensive end. I think he may still hold the conference record for steals in a game!
Posted by Crazy4DaTigers
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
97 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:39 am to
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Jose was a bad MoFo, remember when he beat the hell out them 3 guys at a burger king.





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It was Taco Bell on Highland and he tossed the guy through the plate glass window





Both wrong. It was Church's Fried Chicken on Highland.


It's funny how stories get out and probably get changed. I heard that what actually happened was that Jose and his girlfriend went through the drive-thru and when his girlfriend smiled at the guy in the window, Jose got jealous. He pulled his vehicle over and went inside to confront the guy. The guy was about 5'7" and probably 160lbs, but was a very good HS wrestler at McKinley. He tackled Jose and beat him up some and then some his friends jumped in to kick Jose some and then everyone took off. Who knows what exactly happened, but I heard this from one of the guys that jumped in (which I think is chicken $h!t) many years ago.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18775 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:50 am to
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Game at Georgetown, I believe, though time could have twisted that memory as well.


Don't remember the game but it was a timeout with the TV getting what was going on. Dale tells him not to shoot

He was doing some chip commercial in BR after he was done playing. At the end of the commercial he would say "no way Jose".
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78360 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 11:16 am to
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It's funny how stories get out and probably get changed. I heard that what actually happened was


You're adding to the noise. From Sports Illustrated

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What had happened was this: One evening Vargas had stopped at a Church's Fried Chicken outlet near campus. A group of five teenagers there began taunting him, and one of them took a liking to the chain Vargas wore around his neck. A poke in the chest, a yank on the necklace—on which hung a ring given Vargas by his mother—and Vargas reacted instinctively, tackling the young man and crashing with him through a plate-glass window. The other teenagers fled as Vargas pinned his assailant to the ground, removed his own belt and began choking the fellow with it.

Vargas isn't sure what caused him to stop and let the kid get away, only that he's glad he did. He immediately phoned Brown, who rounded up some players and some baseball bats. "Justice wasn't served," Brown says. "So we formed our own little vigilante group."



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