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Indiana is the most impressive team of all time
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:55 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:55 am
“Best” is subjective because each era of college football is unique due to rule and cultural changes, but I can confidently say that what they are doing is the most impressive thing I’ve seen from a team and it isn’t particularly close.
These guys are doing it without five stars. Maybe a handful of four-stars but mainly zero, one, two and three-stars. And they are boat racing million dollar, five-star filled rosters and getting better every single week.
The “best team of all time” argument is dumb because of eras. We have seen elite college football teams but we have never seen a team do what Indiana is doing.
These guys are doing it without five stars. Maybe a handful of four-stars but mainly zero, one, two and three-stars. And they are boat racing million dollar, five-star filled rosters and getting better every single week.
The “best team of all time” argument is dumb because of eras. We have seen elite college football teams but we have never seen a team do what Indiana is doing.
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:00 am to msutiger
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These guys are doing it without five stars. Maybe a handful of four-stars but mainly zero, one, two and three-stars. And they are boat racing million dollar, five-star filled rosters and getting better every single week.
People have been making a big deal out of this but hardly seem to realize that 70% of Indiana's starting lineup is made up of players who have been playing college football for the past 5-6 years. As a roster their average age is 23.2. For comparison: Alabama's is 20.8 and Green Bay's is 25. Five of their starters were in the same recruiting class as Bryce Young and Young has been a starting QB in the NFL for the last three seasons.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 6:01 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:04 am to msutiger
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Indiana is the most impressive team of all time
...and this definitely isn't a "prisoner of the moment" take
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:17 am to RollTide1987
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70% of Indiana's starting lineup is made up of players who have been playing college football for the past 5-6 years. As a roster their average age is 23.2.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:30 am to msutiger
1995 Nebraska is more impressive
38.7 average margin of victory
Won every game by 14+ points
Won 62-24 vs #2 Florida
Won 44-21 vs #5 Colorado
Win 49-25 vs #7 Kansas State
Won 41-3 vs #9 Kansas
That 1995 Florida team is better than any team Indiana has played all season. They had won all of their games by 11+, including beating #3 Tennessee by 25 and #4 Florida State by 11. And then they ran into Nebraska who made them look like a D2 school. The game could have easily been 76-24.
38.7 average margin of victory
Won every game by 14+ points
Won 62-24 vs #2 Florida
Won 44-21 vs #5 Colorado
Win 49-25 vs #7 Kansas State
Won 41-3 vs #9 Kansas
That 1995 Florida team is better than any team Indiana has played all season. They had won all of their games by 11+, including beating #3 Tennessee by 25 and #4 Florida State by 11. And then they ran into Nebraska who made them look like a D2 school. The game could have easily been 76-24.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:34 am to Dalosaqy
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70% of Indiana's starting lineup is made up of players who have been playing college football for the past 5-6 years. As a roster their average age is 23.2.
Their offense, sure, but their defense is younger and the roster overall has too many freshman to come close to averaging to that age.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:42 am to RollTide1987
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People have been making a big deal out of this but hardly seem to realize that 70% of Indiana's starting lineup is made up of players who have been playing college football for the past 5-6 years. As a roster their average age is 23.2. For comparison: Alabama's is 20.8 and Green Bay's is 25. Five of their starters were in the same recruiting class as Bryce Young and Young has been a starting QB in the NFL for the last three seasons.
None of this changes the fact that they are running teams out of the stadium who spent millions, if not tens of millions, more than them in roster construction.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:47 am to msutiger
1891 Yale would dogwalk a combined 2019 LSU & 25 IU roster.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:07 am to msutiger
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None of this changes the fact that they are running teams out of the stadium who spent millions, if not tens of millions, more than them in roster construction.
On the surface that sounds very impressive but when you dig a little deeper it's not really surprising. It's easier to keep 23, 24, and 25 year olds focused on the prize than it is 18, 19, and 20 year olds who are seeing substantial amounts of money for the first time in their lives. The maturity levels just don't compare.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:11 am to msutiger
It’s the most impressive coaching job I’ve ever seen.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:21 am to RollTide1987
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On the surface that sounds very impressive but when you dig a little deeper it's not really surprising. It's easier to keep 23, 24, and 25 year olds focused on the prize than it is 18, 19, and 20 year olds who are seeing substantial amounts of money for the first time in their lives. The maturity levels just don't compare.
So what you are telling me is that in a world where everyone thought you could buy a championship, one guy figured out how to construct a team within the current rule parameters and with a moderate budget that would boat race teams who had practically unlimited resources
Sounds impressive to me
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 7:22 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:26 am to msutiger
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So what you are telling me is that in a world where everyone thought you could buy a championship, one guy figured out how to construct a team within the current rule parameters and with a moderate budget that would boat race teams who had practically unlimited resources
Oh, no doubt. Cignetti didn't get here by cheating or finding a loophole, he did what he did using the current structure and rules. But let's not act like this is college football anymore. What we are witnessing with 2025 Indiana is an NFL-aged roster with minor league salaries. If that's where college football is heading, kudos for Cignetti for being the first head coach to crack the code. However, historically-speaking college football has been a game for 18-21 year olds. If we want grown men playing the sport going forward then so be it.
Also...let's don't act like Indiana is some also ran school when it comes to money. They are a historic basketball power and have a multi-billionaire in Mark Cuban bankrolling players they get in the transfer portal.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:29 am to RollTide1987
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this but hardly seem to realize that 70% of Indiana's starting lineup is made up of players who have been playing college football for the past 5-6 years
I think everybody realizes it, since it’s been posted here about 10,000 times in the last 12 hours.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:30 am to RollTide1987
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Also...let's don't act like Indiana is some also ran school when it comes to money. They are a historic basketball power and have a multi-billionaire in Mark Cuban bankrolling players they get in the transfer portal.
But which players were big stars that everybody wanted?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:38 am to msutiger
A little over reaction. They have played close games against inferior opponents this year like old dominion & Penn state.
Mendoza is on a heater right now and bama was an arse whooping but last night the blowout was kinda flukish.
4 fumbles and Indiana recovered all of them
Mendoza is on a heater right now and bama was an arse whooping but last night the blowout was kinda flukish.
4 fumbles and Indiana recovered all of them
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:50 am to RollTide1987
What does age have to do with talent?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:56 am to RollTide1987
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However, historically-speaking college football has been a game for 18-21 year olds.
Historically college football has also been a game where schools utilized local talent, with maybe some cash under the table and it was a roster full of Alabama kids playing for Alabama against a roster of Louisiana kids for LSU.
I have no interest in a tiny talent pool of 18-21 year olds where 15 programs spend hundreds of millions of dollars combined to try and be the Los Angeles Dodgers
Experience is the ultimate equalizer. Is there a line? Sure, but not 22 years old which is what the elite programs will push to try and minimize the talent pool
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:00 am to St Augustine
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:03 am to msutiger
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None of this changes the fact that they are running teams out of the stadium who spent millions, if not tens of millions, more than them in roster construction.
bullshite. Cite your sources.
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