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Succinct and accurate assessment of the state of things and American potential
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:52 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:52 am
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I just want everyone to understand that America has not been trying. We bully our smart kids. We spend 1000 times more on special education than gifted and talented programs. We eliminated honors classes in the name of equality. We even came up with a replacement for phonics so stupid that half our kids can’t read. Then we take the smartest kids that survive this system, and we racially and sexually discriminate against them for entry into college. Then we do that again when they apply for their first job. And again for every job after that. Then we undercut them in favor of foreign labor that’ll do worse work for cheaper. Most kids see this and just say “frick it” and focus on sports, or trying to be an influencer, or just give up on trying altogether. Meanwhile in places like China every kid spends 16 hours a day studying trig tables or gets the belt. Yet America is still number one. In everything. There is so much latent potential in the American people. We have tried before. We crossed a continent and carved this country out of clay. We recrossed the oceans and conquered the world by accident as a favor to our friends. One day (hopefully soon), we are going to start trying again. America will wake up. Don’t be on the wrong side when it does.
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:58 am to udtiger
Americans reject the idea that it’s our own fault.
Americans fck America up.
We have major cultural and systemic problems created internally.
For fun- ask Grok if hip hop culture is a net positive for America. Enjoy the debate!
Americans fck America up.
We have major cultural and systemic problems created internally.
For fun- ask Grok if hip hop culture is a net positive for America. Enjoy the debate!
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 7:00 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:59 am to udtiger
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We spend 1000 times more on special education than gifted and talented programs.
I'd like to see this data b/c G/T is under SPED. This guy clearly wasn't in Gifted.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'd like to see this data b/c G/T is under SPED. This guy clearly wasn't in Gifted.
It was a hyperbole. Clearly they didn’t spend 1000 times more because you wouldn’t be so ignorant if they did.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:09 am to BigPerm30
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It was a hyperbole.
Is this the pivot when people say histrionic falsehoods?
Effectively, this renders everything else he said worthless for the same reasons, as I imagine it's all "hyperbole"
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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Effectively, this renders everything else he said worthless for the same reasons, as I imagine it's all "hyperbole"
We could say this about most of your posts, but here you are continuing
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:12 am to baldona
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We could say this about most of your posts
Naw
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:12 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I'd like to see this data b/c G/T is under SPED. This guy clearly wasn't in Gifted.
Quick question and no cheating:
Which programs are being curtailed or even eliminated in blue school districts?
Gifted/Talented?
Or
Special Ed?
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:14 am to udtiger
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Gifted/Talented?
Or
Special Ed?
False choice. G/T is SPED
And the attack on G/T and education isn't just a blue thing. Just look at all the irrational promotion of "trade jobs" in red areas/by red content creators. It's a fundamental part of the populist agenda of AF.
It's a fundamental issue with populism (of which both sides are promoting)
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 7:15 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'd like to see this data b/c G/T is under SPED. This guy clearly wasn't in Gifted
No one collects data on gifted/talented expendatures. All states now fall under "Every Child Succeeds", but only several states actively identify gifted students.
Read and learn.
NAGC website
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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False choice. G/T is SPED
Nice dodge.
Regardless of whether they may fall under the same category, they are different and everyone knows that difference.
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Space Force are all under the War Department, and their funding comes from the same appropriations to the department, but everyone knows they are different.
Answer
The
Question
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 7:18 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:16 am to SlowFlowPro
Spending 1000x is hyperbole, but you can’t deny grade inflation when public schooling hands out 4.0s like candy on Halloween. The number of parents who get their kids diagnosed with “ADHD” so they can get extra time on tests to boost their scores.
There has been an active societal effort to make everyone “special” - and the end result is you have institutions like Harvard offering remedial courses while they are supposedly the “best” in the world.
There has been an active societal effort to make everyone “special” - and the end result is you have institutions like Harvard offering remedial courses while they are supposedly the “best” in the world.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:18 am to GeauxBurrow312
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Spending 1000x is hyperbole, but you can’t deny grade inflation
Grade inflation is a completely different subject not completely related to gifted. It's more a normie issue. The gifted kids who get bad grades do it largely on purpose for secondary reasons (rebelling, boredom, etc)
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:18 am to udtiger
This is all very accurate. I remember when Honor’s classes were eliminated in my desegregated HS, because the Honor’s classes didn’t match the makeup of the overall student body. And this was many decades ago, at the beginning of Judge Parker fricking over our public school system. May his drunken arse rot in Hell.
More recently, both my son and I were victims of a major corporation going all in on DEI, both of us considered high level performers, but “guilty” of being white males. I got pushed out, he found a company that rewards based solely on performance and merit, and is flourishing. Meanwhile, the same company we left is systematically offshoring most of their engineering work to the Jeets, chopping pay and benefits to those that survive, all while reporting billions of dollars in quarterly profits.
More recently, both my son and I were victims of a major corporation going all in on DEI, both of us considered high level performers, but “guilty” of being white males. I got pushed out, he found a company that rewards based solely on performance and merit, and is flourishing. Meanwhile, the same company we left is systematically offshoring most of their engineering work to the Jeets, chopping pay and benefits to those that survive, all while reporting billions of dollars in quarterly profits.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:19 am to SlowFlowPro
I don’t see how you can say it’s completely unrelated. Kids who are, politely, not bright, are getting handed A’s for sub quality work.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:20 am to udtiger
quote:
Answer
The
Question
You need to ask a better question
You're trying to separate only one part of SPED while baked into the question is all the other forms of SPED.
To use your analogy, you're comparing the Coast Guard to the rest of the branches combined
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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And the attack on G/T and education isn't just a blue thing. Just look at all the irrational promotion of "trade jobs" in red areas/by red content creators. It's a fundamental part of the populist agenda of AF
Bruh, do you even do false equivalence?
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:21 am to GeauxBurrow312
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I don’t see how you can say it’s completely unrelated
Gifted kids don't need grade inflation if they're trying
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:23 am to udtiger
That's a lot of words to say that we've rejected meritocracy.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:25 am to UtahCajun
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Bruh, do you even do false equivalence?
It's not, though. This is a function of populism and a big reason why I reject it. It's not a partisan issue.
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