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I get the appeal of Rita Hayworth now

Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:43 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted by cinemaguy23
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:48 pm to
Gilda is great. and shes good in lady from Shanghai.
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:48 pm to
Orson Welles pounded her.
Posted by Richleau
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:56 pm to
As a lighting guy, the shadows in that scene are insane! How did they not properly light and block this scene!
Posted by gumbo2176
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:12 pm to
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As a lighting guy, the shadows in that scene are insane! How did they not properly light and block this scene!



Could it be you're comparing today's technology to what they had in the 40's when that movie was likely made?
Posted by Richleau
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:16 pm to
No, it’s just blocking and key lighting a scene. All it would take is having the women line up and the camera pan across to remove the shadows. The shadows damage the idea that what you are seeing is nothing but lit beautiful women on a stage. Not the worst, but not the best it could be.
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 6:42 pm
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:02 pm to
I love it when she does that shite with her hair.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

As a lighting guy, the shadows in that scene are insane! How did they not properly light and block this scene


They always used hard key lights back then and technicolor was absolutely insane to film because you had to light it like the damn sun because the T-stop on the film was so damn low.

I know it's pretty harsh, but I really don't know if they could have avoided it in any way back then. Also the hard shadow look was very en vogue then was it not?

It also could have been a creative choice to try to mimic animation at the time and make the film look more ethereal and fantastical. Disney films and high end animation always had hard shadows then, too. As the caption says on the clip, the technicolor is absolutely insane. By 1947, the process had been around for about a decade, and it was clearly better and more refined that it was in the early days.

I'd love to see a film in technicolor now, but I don't even think they can develop it anymore, kind of Like Kodachrome. The process is just too intensive for some boutique lab now. It would cost a fortune to light and film as well since you're using 3 strips and 3 cameras at once.
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Richleau
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:40 pm to
With lenses now that can have such low fstops, I disagree completely. The main desire currently is the appeal to realism. They are trying to make something as true to the eye as possible disregarded the fantastically nature of filmmaking. There is a happy balance and post processing can achieve these same results. The problem is the desire to achieve such a result. It is most definitely possible however.
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 7:40 pm
Posted by deltadummy
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:44 pm to
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