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What is the general consensus on shallowing club through hip rotation
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:10 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:10 am
And focusing on secondary spine tilt in order to prevent flipping? Older daughter going through a pretty major swing change - found it interesting that the change involves more loading the left side with almost a lean forward - then making sure the arms can win the race with the hips to promote a more repeatable swing. Interesting- seems super complicated to me - but watching a bit of it makes a heck of a lot of sense - basically make the swing more like a slap shot and far less flippy with arms and hands due to getting stuck…
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:52 pm to 45RCRoy45
I think a shallowing move is great for most people. The problem is, you have to match that up with other aspects for it to properly work. Steeper shaft in the backswing, butt tucked under at address, quite a bit of hip rotation back, pelvis going into flexion in the transition, etc.
If you don’t get everything else right, shallowing either won’t help or won’t happen.
If you don’t get everything else right, shallowing either won’t help or won’t happen.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:10 pm to nugget
I feel like the shallowing sequence is better long term but takes a lot longer to get down… but will eventually be the far better option - once I start being able to play more regularly I will try to adopt this va the modified stack and tilt I do now as I play so infrequently it cuts down on mis hits short term
Your analysis is spot on sir… in my opinion
Your analysis is spot on sir… in my opinion
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:34 pm to 45RCRoy45
I really have zero idea what you are talking about. Honestly.
What is the reason for the change?
I averaged under 70 the majority of my life, and sometimes people make it way too hard. Just hit the damn ball.
What is the reason for the change?
I averaged under 70 the majority of my life, and sometimes people make it way too hard. Just hit the damn ball.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:10 pm to 45RCRoy45
Shallowing seems to be the major fad all over X/YT for “Big Instruction”
Posted on 12/23/25 at 8:03 am to 45RCRoy45
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basically make the swing more like a slap shot and far less flippy with arms and hands due to getting stuck…
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but anytime I've tried out the "shallow" move, I get far more flippy and stuck than my normal swing
Posted on 12/23/25 at 11:05 am to The Pickwick
Thank you for making it real.
If a player is venturing into trying to make any type of swing change or adjustment, it needs to have a clear reason and purpose. And that is to create a swing that allows the golfer to shoot lower scores.
Three basic things that a swing should do: Get the ball in the air, get necessary distance, and hit it straight.
Getting fitted with the proper club and shaft, and then using that technology to improve your game should be the starting point. Go to an expert, and get properly fitted. That way you are not adjusting or fighting getting used to the clubs.
Getting lessons are helpful, but just because they have electronics and cameras doesn't mean they are going to be helpful in the way you need help. That is because every swing is not the same.
And actually, the key to better improvement is... practice. And practice with a purpose. The swing is basically this, the shoulders rotate and the hips turn. The purpose is to load up the swing with energy, maintain it down and through the hitting zone (so as not to cast your hands), and keep the momentum going all the way to the follow through. Trying to dive into the hitting zone to create more distance or height, or whatever is not the best strategy. Work on timing first, then consistency, and let your natural swing work.
If a player is venturing into trying to make any type of swing change or adjustment, it needs to have a clear reason and purpose. And that is to create a swing that allows the golfer to shoot lower scores.
Three basic things that a swing should do: Get the ball in the air, get necessary distance, and hit it straight.
Getting fitted with the proper club and shaft, and then using that technology to improve your game should be the starting point. Go to an expert, and get properly fitted. That way you are not adjusting or fighting getting used to the clubs.
Getting lessons are helpful, but just because they have electronics and cameras doesn't mean they are going to be helpful in the way you need help. That is because every swing is not the same.
And actually, the key to better improvement is... practice. And practice with a purpose. The swing is basically this, the shoulders rotate and the hips turn. The purpose is to load up the swing with energy, maintain it down and through the hitting zone (so as not to cast your hands), and keep the momentum going all the way to the follow through. Trying to dive into the hitting zone to create more distance or height, or whatever is not the best strategy. Work on timing first, then consistency, and let your natural swing work.
Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:52 pm to The Pickwick
Honestly - I stay of my daughters way especially in arenas she has way more expertise such as her golf swing and relationship with her coach.
She was frustrated that her ball striking has fallen off and she can’t seem to find the issue - and she has started there are several underlying issues that have gotten worse as her coach and her both worked to find solutions the past 8-10 weeks…
She reached out to a pro that strictly teaches his unique swing focusing heavily on the early transition of hips in a way that allows the arms to catch up. The issue as I understand it her hips release so well - her arms are well behind and get stuck which causes a flip..
I mean I would agree with you for most players but when you are competing at her level - 6000+ and the flip causes you to push several approach shots from Middle of the fairway - I can understand she wants a more easily repeatable or more accurately easy to diagnose a flaw swing - the new way - seems a bit harder to learn - but once down should be much more easy to repeat given her swing already - very strong hip release… from what I’m being told - the key is to not discourage the hip speed - but allow it to full load while allowing the body’s natural turn to bring hands through (actually shallowing without using hands - the body will automatically do it)…
naturally shallow this way
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She was frustrated that her ball striking has fallen off and she can’t seem to find the issue - and she has started there are several underlying issues that have gotten worse as her coach and her both worked to find solutions the past 8-10 weeks…
She reached out to a pro that strictly teaches his unique swing focusing heavily on the early transition of hips in a way that allows the arms to catch up. The issue as I understand it her hips release so well - her arms are well behind and get stuck which causes a flip..
I mean I would agree with you for most players but when you are competing at her level - 6000+ and the flip causes you to push several approach shots from Middle of the fairway - I can understand she wants a more easily repeatable or more accurately easy to diagnose a flaw swing - the new way - seems a bit harder to learn - but once down should be much more easy to repeat given her swing already - very strong hip release… from what I’m being told - the key is to not discourage the hip speed - but allow it to full load while allowing the body’s natural turn to bring hands through (actually shallowing without using hands - the body will automatically do it)…
naturally shallow this way
LINK
Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:00 pm to Remnant
Yes sir - I completely agree with you - I’m very proud of her for coming to this conclusion on her own and she has bought in and is sending videos and doing all the work with the new swing guy - I mean she’s known him forever - he’s a few states away so this is all done via text and video etc
1. She has a clear purpose - he’s tried this with her before years ago and it just didn’t take but now that it’s her idea - she’s fully bought in and she wants a more repeatable swing and she identified things that just don’t work for her with the current method
2. Your last paragraph is actually even more spot on - (I’ve noticed a gradual slide in her Goggins-esque practice habits she’s always been the get up on her own at 5:30 am and read bible work out etc - but this year I’ve noticed she fills her time with more things she wants to do rather than what she should be doing - she’s a teenager I get it )she still dedicates a lot of time and I never go watch her practice - but her feedback this year wreaked of a bit mentally laziness or overconfidence - kinda like Rocky in Rocky III … before his first fight with Clubber Lang…
We will see how it developed by March but I like Her attitude now and she seems determined to make this her new swing… but to me I am fascinated at how she got stuck and how’s she’s working through this now - the good swing is a really amazing thing to try to perfect and everyone has a bit of a different swing
1. She has a clear purpose - he’s tried this with her before years ago and it just didn’t take but now that it’s her idea - she’s fully bought in and she wants a more repeatable swing and she identified things that just don’t work for her with the current method
2. Your last paragraph is actually even more spot on - (I’ve noticed a gradual slide in her Goggins-esque practice habits she’s always been the get up on her own at 5:30 am and read bible work out etc - but this year I’ve noticed she fills her time with more things she wants to do rather than what she should be doing - she’s a teenager I get it )she still dedicates a lot of time and I never go watch her practice - but her feedback this year wreaked of a bit mentally laziness or overconfidence - kinda like Rocky in Rocky III … before his first fight with Clubber Lang…
We will see how it developed by March but I like Her attitude now and she seems determined to make this her new swing… but to me I am fascinated at how she got stuck and how’s she’s working through this now - the good swing is a really amazing thing to try to perfect and everyone has a bit of a different swing
Posted on 12/23/25 at 8:58 pm to The Pickwick
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I averaged under 70 the majority of my life
Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:11 pm to The Pickwick
quote:You know there is a back nine, right?
I averaged under 70 the majority of my life
Posted on 12/24/25 at 5:03 am to 45RCRoy45
This is what I have been working on too. I have a tendency to spin out the lower body and my hands/arms get stuck behind me resulting in big push fade sacrificing a ton of distance. I got a lesson while in Houston for work over Thanksgiving and he emphasized more weight on left side at address, keeping right leg from straightening, and getting right shoulder down and all the way through before my right hip. Has really helped my ball striking. Miss now is a bad low snap hook but I sent him some face on and dtl videos and he is sending feedback this weekend and I’m headed back to Houston first week of January.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 5:45 am to 45RCRoy45
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 6:11 am to makersmark1
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 6:54 am to The Pickwick
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I averaged under 70 the majority of my life
What condition is Audubon Park in these days?
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