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AI infrastructure down?

Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:00 pm
Posted by BigEasy92
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:00 pm
Too soon to roll out like electric vehicles?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:03 pm to
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Too soon to roll out like electric vehicles?
what?
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
170 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:30 pm to
You think the infrastructure for electric vehicles is sufficient? Not to mention the cost of an electric vehicle.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:40 pm to
The OP is not concise. It's not clear what you're getting at
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
170 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:51 pm to
Thought most knew some of the issues. Power, water, usage in companies not paying off etc.

Although, funding is not an issue.



Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:02 pm to
OP is your average politard, so I guess it all makes sense to them
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:16 pm to
Thanks?
Posted by Jax-Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
26961 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:49 am to
Are you referring to electric vehicles or self-driving autonomous vehicles?
Posted by Craft
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:58 am to
Keep posting. maybe you are the bottom signal
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
170 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:44 am to
I currently live in Seattle. Where both are pretty popular. There is not nearly the Infrastructure for electric vehicles in general. Charging stations would need to out number gas stations. Rural areas have little to no charging stations.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:32 am to
Electric vehicles are NOT A I.
Self driving vehicles are AI.
What are you trying to say?
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
170 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:32 am to
I said AI infrastructure is similar to electric vehicle infrastructure. In the sense it was not ready to be launched quite yet.

Connecting the dots?
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:18 pm to
No. The problem is that the demand for electric vehicles never really materialized, so the charging stations were never built. The electric cars were limited. City folk liked them, but they didn't drive very far. People in the suburbs and small towns don't like them, because of their limited range.

Ford recently discontinued their electric trucks, because they couldn't sell them.

Demand for AI infrastructure far outpaced the available data centers. The reason I asked about AVs is because AVs depend on AI infrastructure to work.

Another difference is that the environmental wackadoodles LOVE electric charging stations and hate data centers. Data centers use a ton of electric power, and therefore, are evil.
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
170 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:41 pm to
One could say the federal government invested way too much into electric vehicles. No one bought them but even if they did. We couldn’t support the infrastructure to charge them. Asia has coined tge best electric vehicles anyway.

AI has similarities. Federal government is highly involved. They do in fact lack resources to operate full scale all over the nation. Power and water to cool are just some factors. It will eventually get sorted out. Too much $ invested not to.

Even if AVs were sold at we again don’t have the AI infrastructure in place as we speak.

In my opinion AI infrastructure is over inflated currently. People are buying into it but little rewards on a large scale. I work in the public sector ( it has yet to take off yet and even statewide it does repetitive tasks only like admin tasks) I think in 3-8 years it will take off. Im okay with wading tge water until my stocks pay off. But they are taking a dump right now and may continue.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

There is not nearly the Infrastructure for electric vehicles in general. Charging stations would need to out number gas stations. Rural areas have little to no charging stations.

Not sure if you've heard of this, but some people have houses.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:19 pm to
Well, Mr. Alter, I see you have returned. You are paying attention to the details and have added a favorite team to this new alter account.

Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26961 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:43 pm to
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In my opinion AI infrastructure is over inflated currently. People are buying into it but little rewards on a large scale. I work in the public sector ( it has yet to take off yet and even statewide it does repetitive tasks only like admin tasks) I think in 3-8 years it will take off. Im okay with wading tge water until my stocks pay off. But they are taking a dump right now and may continue.


I think you are conflating the AI with the AI infrastructure.

The AIs are doing the tasks you're referring to. The Infrastructure is limiting what the AI can do.

Think of AI as an automobile. The infrastructure is the roads. Right now, the cars are limited as to where they can take you because there aren't a lot of roads. It's taking longer to build the roads because they have to procure the land, do the environmental impact studies, and then build the roads. The same with data centers, except they have to build the energy production for the GPUs.

The demand for more roads (data centers) is very high - companies like NBIS, CRWV, and IREN are exclusively building data centers. The companies like Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Meta, and Tesla are also building data centers.

The demand for more data centers rises out of the demand for more AI. Right now, only the cities have some roads, just like there is enough data centers for the big companies. Eventually, the any company of any size will be connected to data centers for their computing needs. It will take a while before we get there.

To your original question - no it is not to early. The demand for electric cars was never enough to justify building a nationwide network of charging stations, so it hasn't happened. The demand for electric cars never exceeded the our electric capacity, as some suggested it would.

The demand for data centers, however, far exceeds the amount of compute that we have available, and we don't have enough electricity available to meet that demand. So everytime we create a new data center, we have to build a powerplant to drive it.
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