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re: Not bashing...but Alex Farrer?
Posted on 2/15/09 at 1:53 am to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 2/15/09 at 1:53 am to heartbreakTiger
he certainly isn't a threat to score, but he did have 3 assists tonight against 1 turnover. thats solid, although the one turnover was a bad one.
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Posted on 2/15/09 at 1:57 am to cene
see if they just leave him then he can sneak back door. he just can't turn the ball over. I like his effort on d though just i dont want him to touch the ball unless he is wide open
Posted on 2/15/09 at 2:06 am to heartbreakTiger
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see if they just leave him then he can sneak back door. he just can't turn the ball over. I like his effort on d though just i dont want him to touch the ball unless he is wide open
i don't find he really moves without the ball though. He mainly went from one wing to the other. although his pass to Johnson for the dunk was sweet. There were times he had opportunities to shoot and he didn't.
He needs to develop some offense, even if its just an average of 4 pts a game and then a couple of free throws late. Account that with a few assist and one or two rebounds and he becomes a decent bench player to give you a few minutes while your starters rest.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 2:11 am to heartbreakTiger
he shut down one of their leading scorers,and had three assists.i know he hast trouble handleling the ball but i thought he was fouled on that turnover. overall i think he helped win the game tonight.trust the coach he knows who to play.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 2:17 am to tigerswin03
he did help bc he played shut down d. Im just saying he doesn't need to touch the ball. Though i figure they didn't mind him having the ball bc he is usually a good free throw shooter.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 2:22 am to heartbreakTiger
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he did help bc he played shut down d. Im just saying he doesn't need to touch the ball. Though i figure they didn't mind him having the ball bc he is usually a good free throw shooter.
See i agree with this. If he can just get confidence to take a shot or two and maybe get a foul while shooting the free throws will come in handy. Especially if he gets to shoot a free throw with say 7 minutes left. That way he has a chance to warm up to the goal so that if he gets fouled in crunch time like last night it won't be his first trip to the basket or his first shot.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 2:24 am to cene
i agree completely. I wish he would pull the trigger on 3's where he is wide open. I don't want him jacking up shots left and right and I don't want him to shoot off the dribble just if they sag off and we have good position take the shot.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 4:14 am to teeMike
Farrer shut down Huertes for the last 8-9 minutes of the game.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 7:02 am to teeMike
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This guy frightens me when he's in the game.
So the guy who plays no defense doesn't scare you? TJ continues to pull the right strings. We were struggling on the defensive end, so he puts Farrer in for Martin. We finished the game on a 19-4 run.
I realize we're mostly football fans trying to understand basketball these days, but there is much more to the game than offense. The missed FTs and TO hurt, but his defense was something Martin wasn't giving us.
This post was edited on 2/15/09 at 7:12 am
Posted on 2/15/09 at 7:38 am to JustSmokin
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I realize we're mostly football fans trying to understand basketball these days, but there is much more to the game than offense.
At least he didn't have a face mask penalty, or excessive celebration penalty.
Seriously, he is a sub, who was put in a tough situation. He made some mistakes that were in the spotlight, but his D was solid. I agree with the observation that he was fouled on the big turnover. Didn't Martin miss three free throws. If fact the whole team was off at the line. Trust in TJ. It's a team win, and no one was perfect on my TV.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 7:51 am to Good Times
Agreed...we won again, yet everyone wants to find a scapegoat, because the game was in question for a while. Farrer played tough D & in this case, that is what the team needed...
Posted on 2/15/09 at 8:21 am to death valley driver
"...honestly i could grab two or three guys from the rec and they could preform just as well"
Anyone who thinks coming off the bench to shut down a player and shooting FT's at clutch time is easy hasn't been asked to do it.
Anyone who thinks coming off the bench to shut down a player and shooting FT's at clutch time is easy hasn't been asked to do it.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 8:45 am to teeMike
The bottomline is that both Farrer and Voogd were complete stretches for the SEC and Brady/Butch went 1000+ miles to get these kids. The fact that Farrer is only averaging 8.8 minutes per game this season and 5.5 minutes per SEC contest says a lot about his ability to compete at this level. Farrer is shooting 29.4% from the floor this season and 28.6% from beyond the arc. He also has 18 assists compared to 17 turnovers. Farrer is obviously trying his hardest, it's just not good enough despite the SEC being very "down" right now. He did have a little more success last year, but his offensive numbers were still very subpar considering he shot 38% from the field and 22.6% from beyond the arc. Having said that, he did step up and make a couple of nice plays last night. TJ is obviously doing his best with the hand he was dealt and you can't blame Farrer for accepting the only major scholarship offer he received.
This post was edited on 2/15/09 at 9:39 am
Posted on 2/15/09 at 9:52 am to Stromile Swift
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Farrer is obviously trying his hardest, it's just not good enough despite the SEC being very "down" right now.
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Having said that, he did step up and make a couple of nice plays last night
Thanks Stromile...that's all I was trying to say with the rant. You basically nailed it.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 10:09 am to teeMike
dude is fricking terrible
we may as well play 4 vs 5 instead of subbing him in. brings nothing to the table
we may as well play 4 vs 5 instead of subbing him in. brings nothing to the table
This post was edited on 2/15/09 at 10:10 am
Posted on 2/15/09 at 10:11 am to Stromile Swift
So, isn't the bottom line to your post, which I agree with, is that he is a MEMBER of this TEAM, and if the coaches feel that WHATEVER he can contribute is needed at this time. Even if only giving much needed rest for the other players.
IMHO, his contributions on D were greater than his errors. Martin's D was not as good, and he took an ill advised 3 from WAAAY outside for an air ball, and if I'm remembering correctly, he missed all three ft's on a 3pt foul. Sorry if I'm wrong on this." Not trying to bash Martin, just putting some balance on the analysis.
IMHO, his contributions on D were greater than his errors. Martin's D was not as good, and he took an ill advised 3 from WAAAY outside for an air ball, and if I'm remembering correctly, he missed all three ft's on a 3pt foul. Sorry if I'm wrong on this." Not trying to bash Martin, just putting some balance on the analysis.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 10:50 am to teeMike
quote:And yet...
Not bashing
Posted on 2/15/09 at 11:09 am to heartbreakTiger
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dont want to bash him but jesus you can't do what he did today and turn the damn ball over with 17 seconds on the clock. Its not all his fault though, the other players should know to not let him handle the ball.
I agree but I wonder why no one is mentioning the free throws that Thornton missed or the turnovers under the basket that he made. Those were some of the reasons that we were down by eight when Farrer entered the game. Farrer is certainly not as athletic and is not a starter but we need him to win games.
We probably wouldn't have won the game without him.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 11:11 am to BilJ
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dude is fricking terrible
we may as well play 4 vs 5 instead of subbing him in. brings nothing to the table
FWIW, there's more to basketball than just putting the ball in the hole. his offense isnt very good but he was pretty lock down on Huertes.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 11:12 am to The Seaward
He's not D-1 material, but thanks to recruiting decision made prior to T. Johnson...he's all we've got.
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