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Big 10 Scheduling
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:38 am
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:38 am
With Michigan and UCLA in turmoil and Penn State not exactly in a great situation either, the big 10 is only gonna get worse. We know Ohio State and Oregon are good. Then you have a random good team every year such as Washington or Indiana. And then USC and Iowa are middle of the road and that's it in a conference with 18(!) teams.
I'd argue most cfb fans didn't even watch the Heisman trophy winner play this year, simply because there was only 1 nationally appealing game on Indiana's schedule.
So what can be done? The protected matchups need to include some of the top teams. Right now you have OSU/Michigan and Oregon/Washington. Penn State and USC need to start playing OSU and Oregon every year for starters.
The SEC made the big 6 play against each other in cross division games for years and years which created rivalries among them such as UGA/Auburn, Bama/Tenn, and LSU/Florida. When it came time to end divisions but maintain permanent rivalries, those games naturally consisted of good matchups. The Big 10 doesn't have that. Now the conference is so big that the schedules have just become watered down
I'd argue most cfb fans didn't even watch the Heisman trophy winner play this year, simply because there was only 1 nationally appealing game on Indiana's schedule.
So what can be done? The protected matchups need to include some of the top teams. Right now you have OSU/Michigan and Oregon/Washington. Penn State and USC need to start playing OSU and Oregon every year for starters.
The SEC made the big 6 play against each other in cross division games for years and years which created rivalries among them such as UGA/Auburn, Bama/Tenn, and LSU/Florida. When it came time to end divisions but maintain permanent rivalries, those games naturally consisted of good matchups. The Big 10 doesn't have that. Now the conference is so big that the schedules have just become watered down
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:48 am to Yeti_Chaser
Ok so what you want them to do about it?
The problem is the flash in the pans never last for the mid year teams. Wisconsin and Michigan State have gone to shite! Nebraska program has died! Washington is mid.
OSU has played Penn State for every year they’ve been in the Big ten except this coming year. All the west coast teams play each other. The real answer here is the middle of the pack needs to develop.
The problem is the flash in the pans never last for the mid year teams. Wisconsin and Michigan State have gone to shite! Nebraska program has died! Washington is mid.
OSU has played Penn State for every year they’ve been in the Big ten except this coming year. All the west coast teams play each other. The real answer here is the middle of the pack needs to develop.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:14 am to Yeti_Chaser
I don’t know much about the logistics of scheduling one year in advance but they could do some sort of relegation scheduling for conference games but the leaders of the conference would never but into that because it would risk playoff bids.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:45 am to Buttermilk Pancakes
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The real answer here
…the BIG10 is one giant cupcake conference with 2-3 good teams that rarely ever have to face each other in the regular season.
The conference is a joke and artificially inflates Ohio state, who has to get up and play for maybe 2 games a year rather than be beat up on week in and week out by tough quality competition.
BIG10 is weak AF. I would put the BIG12 ahead of yall as a tougher conference top to bottom.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:47 am to Buttermilk Pancakes
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Ok so what you want them to do about it?
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Penn State and USC need to start playing OSU and Oregon every year for starters.
Oregon vs Ohio State every year would be nice too. But I doubt that ever happens
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The real answer here is the middle of the pack needs to develop
That would be ideal but unfortunately it's trending the opposite way with Penn State, Michigan, and UCLA all falling apart. Ferentz isn't going to last forever at Iowa either. Hopefully Indiana can sustain their success. The only other option is to drop a few schools or bring ND in. 18 feels like way too many for a top heavy conference
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 9:50 am
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:51 am to Buttermilk Pancakes
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so what you want them to do about it?
Disband for both reasons of moral turpitude and poor performance.
Complete joke of a conference.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:56 am to honeybadger07
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BIG10 is weak AF. I would put the BIG12 ahead of yall as a tougher conference top to bottom.
As shown last year with empirical evidence, as in actual games played, the B1G was the best conference just last season.
They may well be this season as well. Washington just housed the Mountain West Champ by 4 TDs.
SEC fans like to jerk each other off but there hasn't been much climax recently with that conference
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:01 am to Yeti_Chaser
Indiana played Oregon and Ohio State. I would add the Iowa and Illinois games as quality opponents
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:06 am to Yeti_Chaser
Ohio State and Oregon, agreed.
I think Indiana has some potential staying power for awhile. Cignetti knows what the hell he’s doing.
Penn State, for their self-inflicted stupidity in dumping Franklin (imo)may have saved themselves with Campbell. I think the guy is a really good coach and a little undervalued for what he was able to accomplish in Ames. Interesting to see what he can do with the resources of a Penn State.
USC always possesses the potential.
Michigan will always have everything in place needed if they can manage and get out of their own way.
I think Indiana has some potential staying power for awhile. Cignetti knows what the hell he’s doing.
Penn State, for their self-inflicted stupidity in dumping Franklin (imo)may have saved themselves with Campbell. I think the guy is a really good coach and a little undervalued for what he was able to accomplish in Ames. Interesting to see what he can do with the resources of a Penn State.
USC always possesses the potential.
Michigan will always have everything in place needed if they can manage and get out of their own way.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:24 am to honeybadger07
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BIG10 is weak AF. I would put the BIG12 ahead of yall as a tougher conference top to bottom.
Plant workers are funny
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:24 am to Great Plains Drifter
I've come to appreciate big10 football in recent years. Having friends in Nebraska, Iowa and Minnesota has found me watching several big10 games each weekend. Now I want to make a road trip to catch some stadiums up there. 
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:48 am to Yeti_Chaser
Oregon-Penn State and USC-Michigan have so far been designated annual matchups. I don’t know what the future rotation looks like, but the B1G is at least attempting to create rivalries and annual showdowns.
I don’t know why Ohio State was left out. Maybe because they are paired with both Michigan and Penn State already.
I don’t know why Ohio State was left out. Maybe because they are paired with both Michigan and Penn State already.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:48 am to Buckeye06
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As shown last year with empirical evidence, as in actual games played, the B1G was the best conference just last season.
Not to derail the thread but please explain how you came to that conclusion. I don't think anyone would debate that the top of the big 10 is as good or better than anyone. But the conference as a whole is watered down due to so many bad programs which creates scheduling problems
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Washington just housed the Mountain West Champ by 4 TDs.
Don't use bowl games when attempting to prove your point. They're irrelevant these days
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:50 am to Yeti_Chaser
quote:I mean Campbell is a great hire. They’ll be fine
Penn State not exactly in a great situation either,
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:57 am to Ghost of Colby
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Oregon-Penn State and USC-Michigan have so far been designated annual matchups.
I don't think this is true. It's not listed as one of the 11 designated annual matchups. But it would certainly help if true.
At a minimum they need the following annually:
OSU/Michigan
OSU/Penn State
USC/UCLA
Oregon/Washington
Oregon/USC
USC/Washington
Adding Oregon/PSU and Michigan/USC would help. Same with OSU/Oregon though it's unlikely. Maybe get Indiana in on the action with some of Michigan/PSU/Iowa/OSU.
There are enough good teams that the potential for the matchups is there, the big 10 just has to figure out how to schedule them. 3 permanent rivals could help with scheduling and geographic travel
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:28 pm to Yeti_Chaser
So how could anyone ever prove one conference is better. The B1G was better in the playoffs and the bowl game matchups between the conferences.
What else could you possible use to determine best conference?
What else could you possible use to determine best conference?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:33 pm to Yeti_Chaser
The Big 10 just needs to axe 6-8 teams. It will eventually happen. The top of the conference is only going to drag the bottom along financially for so long. Every decision in college football is made with money in mind.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:36 pm to TDawg1313
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The Big 10 just needs to axe 6-8 teams. It will eventually happen. The top of the conference is only going to drag the bottom along financially for so long. Every decision in college football is made with money in mind.
Is there even a mechanism to remove teams? That's basically unheard of.
It would be more likely that the top breaks away and forms something new.
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