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Netflix WB Merger will be a disaster

Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56912 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:55 pm
Matt Stoller wrote a pretty good analysis on the merger and why it is a bad idea. Quality will go down, prices will rise, and movie production will shrink. Meanwhile Zaslav gets $500 million for the deal.

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Already, filmmakers are coming out anonymously saying that the streaming giant, if the deal goes through, would “Hold a Noose Around the Theatrical Marketplace.” Just the fact that creative powerful storytellers are afraid of opposing this deal publicly should tell us something. The deal looks illegal and is likely to face a merger challenge, which I’m going to go into. It may ultimately even prompt a monopolization case against Netflix....

David Zaslav, is a reviled executive who has done a poor job for shareholders and filmmakers, but will nonetheless get paid $500 million if the deal closes. But Zaslav is just the help, the real power here is cable billionaire John Malone.

There were multiple bidders in the process. Comcast/NBC and Paramount were the others, they owned traditional studios. Netflix, however, is different. It doesn’t release its content into theaters, and most people think that the goal of Sarandos is to kill the entire movie theater business in favor of streaming.

One very obvious problem with this deal is that movie theaters right now are in a precarious position, and Netflix will likely push them over the edge. A theater needs a certain number of new releases to be profitable, and are very close to that line right now. Previous mergers have actually cut the number of theatrical releases.

Before Disney acquired 20th Century Fox in 2019, those two studios combined for an average of 24 wide release (1000+ theaters) films annually. Over the last three years, the merged studios have only released an average of 14 films annually – a 44% decline.

Netflix is the number one streamer, and would be buying the number three streamer. It would also be buying a large and important content library, which would presumably then be unavailable for potential rival streaming services. A Netflix-Warner merger is a recipe for monopolization, and would be a pretty straightforward challenge for an antitrust lawyer under the Clayton Act. Judges are always a crapshoot, but the story here is clear, and recent analogies work against this deal.

Yesterday, Biden antitrust chief Jonathan Kanter went on CNBC to discuss the situation, before the deal closed. He cast doubt on all the bidders, but pointed out that Netflx probably has the biggest legal risk among all the possible buyers. It would be a big streaming combination where prices to consumers are already going up, it would also mean that a big film and TV library currently being licensed by other streamers would be locked up by Netflix....

Kanter’s main point was that even attempting a deal is dangerous, since Warner Bros Discover would have to freeze its business for a year and half while it undergoes a review. If the merger fails, then its assets will have degraded in that time period. The risks of a deal are significant, and frankly, it is irresponsible of the Warner board to try to do this kind of sale....

If the deal is illegal, why would Netflix go ahead with it? Well, it’s probably bad legal advice. Sarandos hired antitrust lawyer Steve Sunshine of Skadden, and Sunshine is a bad lawyer. He is often over-optimistic in telling his clients to go ahead with deals.

Sunshine has advised on several high-profile mergers over the past decade that faced federal challenges. In multiple cases where he represented the acquiring company, the deals were blocked or later abandoned after intervention from the Department of Justice or the Federal Trade Commission. Those included Visa’s attempted purchase of Plaid, Adobe’s effort to buy Figma, and Sabre’s proposed acquisition of Farelogix....

So why this aggressive attempt to sell the corporation? A big reason is that Zazlav will be paid $500 million for closing the deal. But behind that payday is that the financiers who run Hollywood simply don’t believe the movie business can offer the kind of returns they see their monopolist peers in tech getting. And they lack any capacity for creativity or leadership.

That’s why antitrust laws exist, to prevent people like this from ruining important corporations. Ultimately, this story of consolidation in Hollywood has been longstanding, and it intersects with deregulation. The old Hollywood model was to make TV shows and movies, and to sell them through multiple channels; good content made good money. But starting 20 years ago, the price signals that used to communicate what consumers liked and didn’t like started breaking down, so making good content stopped translating into profits....


The right way to fix this situation is, as Jon Voigt proposed, to restore the prohibitions against vertical integration, a streaming version of the financial syndication rules. But financiers like Sarandos, Malone and Zazlav hate that idea, and think the answer is consolidation. They figure that consumers will then have no choice but to pay more for streaming, regardless of quality. Netflix in particular seems to have a model of importing foreign content, which will ultimately end the American film industry entirely.



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This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466061 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:07 pm to
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One very obvious problem with this deal is that movie theaters right now are in a precarious position, and Netflix will likely push them over the edge. A theater needs a certain number of new releases to be profitable, and are very close to that line right now. Previous mergers have actually cut the number of theatrical releases.


Time for the next Roger Corman to emerge

I'm somewhat serious though, that this may be able to permit a pivot from the super small or super big polar paradigm to the tradition cinema marketplace.

Posted by vilma4prez
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:38 pm to
I don't know... the entertainment industry will still find a way to make its nut.

Take music..
Cds and records are all but dead.. it's all streaming and downloads..
Yes, there is more repetitive listening than movie viewing, but the TV is still always on.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61287 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 3:10 pm to
Movie production was going to shrink no matter what. David Zaslav and the board wanted their golden parachute money and they were going to sell WB to somebody regardless.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 3:30 pm to
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That’s why antitrust laws exist, to prevent people like this from ruining important corporations.


I don't see how the government could possibly block this over antitrust concerns. Netflix and WBD are both in the entertainment realm, but they don't focus on the same things. Netflix has none of what a WBD acquisition can offer them.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2319 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:32 pm to
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I don't see how the government could possibly block this over antitrust concerns. Netflix and WBD are both in the entertainment realm, but they don't focus on the same things. Netflix has none of what a WBD acquisition can offer them.

Both Paramount and Comcast have cable broadcasting as well as movie studios. Netflix has neither and doesn't want the cable business. All these tech and media companies have been gobbling each other up forever. Netflix spent it's entire existence growing from within.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67451 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 6:12 pm to
Is this a merger or a corporate takeover? I thought Netflix was purchasing Netflix stock.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:30 pm to
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Both Paramount and Comcast have cable broadcasting as well as movie studios. Netflix has neither and doesn't want the cable business.


Exactly. There's no antitrust concern.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3434 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:49 pm to
Pretty crazy that a mail in dvd rental company became a movie making monopoly over a couple of decades.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1705 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:55 pm to
If Blockbuster had said yes then the industry would look completely different and probably would be much better than it is now.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38626 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:30 pm to
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I don't know... the entertainment industry will still find a way to make its nut.


The film industry has been mostly dead for a few years now. It is definitely not making its nut.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4021 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:16 pm to
There aren’t fewer movies — there are worse movies.

If studios made films that large audiences actually want to see, with strong word-of-mouth legs, theaters wouldn’t be worried about release counts at all.

Look at the last Predator movie: it opened big, then collapsed once people heard how ridiculous it was. That kind of flop can vaporize well over $100+ million and shorten its run. When a movie that was supposed to carry several weeks of box-office momentum instead dies in seven days, theaters lose money too.

It’s not a shortage of movies — it’s a shortage of good ones.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56912 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:03 am to
That too. Napoleon perfect example. Scott once had serious chops but now turns out crap.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19386 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:33 am to
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Netflix WB Merger will be a disaster

If Netflix prioritizes making money over ideology then can crush. There is a gap in the industry for great non-woke trash.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2319 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:48 am to
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If Netflix prioritizes making money over ideology then can crush.

This is hilarious. May want to check your math.
Posted by Lark225
Member since Mar 2019
1801 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:37 am to
Entertainment is horrible currently
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