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Treasury Department unintentionally humorous?

Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62605 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:19 pm


quote:

U.S. Treasuries are having their best year since 2020, and the investors who had confidence and faith in President Trump’s economic policies have been richly rewarded. Never bet against or America!



Who wants to tell them?
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5200 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:25 pm to
The more money you earn, the more taxes you pay?




ETA: I'm guessing in addition to some cuts they've found in fraud and eliminated?
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62605 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:09 pm to
Read the first 4 responses to the tweet.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8476 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

Taxing Authority


Wrong board.

Also, you have severe TDS.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93758 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Also, you have severe TDS.


Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5200 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

Read the first 4 responses to the tweet


I can't. Don't have X
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62605 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

Wrong board.


quote:

Also, you have severe TDS.
care to address the topic?
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
960 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:01 am to
So don't buy treasuries? If the market is shite, as you imply, then you should be making bank on shorting. Has that worked out for you? Probably not, because the market is still mildly bullish in spite of your whimpering. My portfolio is still killing it based on growth.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
793 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:04 am to
This thread sucks!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62605 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:05 am to
quote:

So don't buy treasuries? If the market is shite, as you imply, then you should be making bank on shorting.
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
960 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:07 am to
An easy metric to see if the market sucks or is doing well:

Look at TQQQ, which is based on growth, then look at SQQQ, which is based on shorting. Which portfolio has the best performance since Trump took office?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62605 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:09 am to
quote:

An easy metric to see if the market sucks or is doing well:
When did this become a NASDAQ thread?
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
960 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:13 am to
When you quoted a text that talks about investors. You want to limit this discussion to bonds?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62605 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:14 am to
quote:

When you quoted a text that talks about investors. You want to limit this discussion to bonds?
You could always read the tweet? Neither it, nor I mentioned the broader market. No need. It stands on its own.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 12:15 am
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
960 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:17 am to
I read the tweet and the comments. What it says to me is that people investing in bonds are doing well. You seem to want to say the economy is shite because of this and I have posted my argument otherwise. What is YOUR point?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135697 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:40 am to
quote:

Read the first 4 responses to the tweet.


You mean the respondents who quip in response to Bessent ...
"You understand the higher it is, the worse it is for our country? You know that, right? Right?"
... with no clue as to WTF they are actually addressing?
Those first 4?

Bessent's post is about overall bond valuation, not just rates.

Worse yet, besides cluelessness about that distinction, those respondents don't even have the foggiest clue as to what rates are actually doing. They are yammering about "higher" bond rates at a point when, T-note rates are DOWN >20% since Trump took office. So not only are they unintentionally responding to apples with oranges, they brought bananas to make their argument.



However, rather than simple T-note rate assessment, Bessent's claim — "U.S. Treasuries are having their best year since 2020" — is a straightforward reference to the positive TOTAL returns for Treasury bonds in 2025, i.e., the Bloomberg U.S. Treasury Index, or something similar expressing total valuation (bond income and bond price escalation combined) as his bar graph demonstrated.

This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 6:16 am
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