- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Go back and look at our last couple classes
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:28 am
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:28 am
Most of the top players we thought were “can’t miss” never played, sucked, or transferred. The transfer portal will take 40% of your recruiting class over time anyways. Take the best kids you can get and address “misses” in the portal. This roster cannot be patched with 18 year olds anyways develop the kids that you get and the portal is you bread winner.
5
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:33 am to Cajun Prophet
It is difficult for me to get interested in recruiting. I used to keep a page running on this site that kept up with all additions in recruiting/portal. I have time to keep up with it, but I just don’t have the desire to anymore.
Don’t get me wrong though. Obviously we want guys like Gerald’s and Brown. But I don’t check back in every two minutes with the refresh button like I used to years ago.
Don’t get me wrong though. Obviously we want guys like Gerald’s and Brown. But I don’t check back in every two minutes with the refresh button like I used to years ago.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:39 am to dstone12
I agree because of NIL it has become free agency and it becomes hard to get attached to the players because of the portal. After Elias Ricks went to bama I had not been excited about a HS kid until we landed Kiffin. It’s really only because of the program excitement, but I’ve quickly been reminded how this really works now. Miss the old NSD when your team was built upon recruiting HS talent. Sad truth is the best way to build a roster is you get a couple elite prospects in hs and roster fillers. The portal really is the main catalyst now especially with how many kids you bring in being uncapped now. (WV has 40 commits)
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:53 am to Cajun Prophet
We were not good at talent evaluation under BK
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:59 am to ELVIS U
Oh we were awful… just looked at rankings and hoped they were ready. Ole miss has been awesome developmentally
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:01 am to Cajun Prophet
quote:
Most of the top players we thought were “can’t miss” never played, sucked, or transferred. The transfer portal will take 40% of your recruiting class over time anyways. Take the best kids you can get and address “misses” in the portal. This roster cannot be patched with 18 year olds anyways develop the kids that you get and the portal is you bread winner.
Casual bullshite. Lack of player development, specifically on offense, has been the issue. But by all means, please name off all of the starters and critical reserves that LSU wanted to or tried to keep who have left over the last 3 years. That has NOT been a major issue here, so recruiting is not some afterthought.
Recruiting retention is allowing the kids who don’t pan out, are projects who decide to not stay, or who aren’t high priority to leave, paying the ones you need to keep, and keeping that cycle going through consistently strong recruiting. This is the way to build a foundation for winning while blowing less of the rev share money to do it.
This is MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER now that rev share is starting. Some of you can’t fricking understand basic math. The recruiting player pool is a much bigger market and outside of the very top players, is much CHEAPER than the portal because of it. The more limited pot of money with Rev share starting makes it even more important to build a foundation with recruiting and internal development.
If you do this right, then you can do what Ohio St did last year- spend big on a few high impact players in the portal who can put you over the top. If you try to build a roster in the more limited player pool of the portal now, you will get far less return on the money spent. The top players in the portal’s values are driven up by scarcity. It’s just basic economics.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 10:05 am
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:08 am to Cajun Prophet
I can't stand all these idiots on the board blaming Kiffin for "losing all this talent" on day 2 of the early signing period...
People tend to forget players like Justin Jefferson was a 2 Star recruit and Mansoor Delane was a 3 star recruit...the stars of the team.
People tend to forget players like Justin Jefferson was a 2 Star recruit and Mansoor Delane was a 3 star recruit...the stars of the team.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:11 am to misey94
It’s obvious player development has been an issue. recruiting will always be the lifeblood. It’s also true that Lane has had 3 days to approach the early signing day. It’s pretty obvious next seasons HS class will be better and pivotal. This season you have no choice than to prioritize the portal. It’s not casual BS recruiting is important but no 18 year old is more important than a coach and the rest of the team.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:12 am to GumboTiger19
Development! Brad Davis was retained and Sloan for individual recruits and look at how that turned out
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:17 am to Cajun Prophet
Yeah development is a whole other conversation that needs to be discussed. Losing Moffit was a huge blow to our physical development of players imo
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:53 am to Cajun Prophet
quote:
This season you have no choice than to prioritize the portal. It’s not casual BS recruiting is important but no 18 year old is more important than a coach and the rest of the team.
Retention of the talent already on the roster (undeveloped or not) and closing out the class as well as possible need to be priorities before we even think about the portal. That’s the only way we will have enough money to flesh out a competitive roster for 2026 using the portal.
As for Brown and Anderson, if it takes extra money, then we need to do it. It’s an opportunity cost. If they do pan out, and most 5 stars do at a draft able level, then they would cost far more in the portal in 2-3 years than they do today. They are the kind of player you don’t walk away from willingly over a little money or drama.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:06 pm to misey94
I really am glad we got Anderson and I want Lamar brown to be great here. As for retention. Instead of scholarship caps, there are now maximum limits for the total number of athletes a team can have on its roster. (this was changed in June of 2025). I think for LSU offense there are very few players that should be retained no matter what: Barry, Kyle Parker(he gives high effort and can block), Moore(C), and a few o lineman are all should be given significant attention to. There is a culture issue with this offense. A new coach and new group is essential. As for defense, retain everyone that will stay. The team will look drastically different and that’s okay take advantage of the new limit rule. We will likely have a better late signing period (outside of Anderson and hopefully brown) because so many coaches have moved and many are pushing commitments back. We have to trust Lane Kiffin, he will do what is necessary in the end.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:14 pm to Cajun Prophet
Even more glaring. Look at Texas A&M's 2022 best class ever. 8/9 5* players transferred or were busts.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:25 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
portal recruiting has removed high school recruiting as the end all be all
why sign 25 high school guys where 10 may rarely see the field and end up in portal anyway unless you are confident those 25 can play for you
USC's class this year is up around 35 or so
why sign 25 high school guys where 10 may rarely see the field and end up in portal anyway unless you are confident those 25 can play for you
USC's class this year is up around 35 or so
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:31 pm to nicholastiger
Offensively I really have zero idea what these kids are being coached to do this season.
Qb's- awful footwork and reading progressions. Looked confused/frustrated when talking to the coaches
OL - zero idea what to do when having to pass off players in a 3 man rush
WR's - I don't remember the last time they commented on a "well run route", and they drop a lot of passes.
Qb's- awful footwork and reading progressions. Looked confused/frustrated when talking to the coaches
OL - zero idea what to do when having to pass off players in a 3 man rush
WR's - I don't remember the last time they commented on a "well run route", and they drop a lot of passes.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:36 pm to Cajun Prophet
quote:
There is a culture issue with this offense. A new coach and new group is essential.
A new coach can often fix whatever culture issue is occurring. The players as a whole are probably not the issue. Poor coaching across the board created poor performance.
I bet Kiffin and his assts can get a lot more out of these same players to perform at a much higher level. Then sprinkle in a few key transfers.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:43 pm to nicholastiger
quote:
why sign 25 high school guys
Because the best programs are doing just that. You need to have a very strong HS recruiting class as your base. You have them on campus and get to coach them, develop them and see who becomes your starters.
There are not enough quality portal guys to build a roster year in and year out. You can get lucky but that is not what the Top programs are doing.
Focus on getting Top 5 recruiting classes so that you can develop your culture and create team unity. Add in a few elements each year where you are falling short.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:06 pm to Cajun Prophet
quote:
As for retention. Instead of scholarship caps, there are now maximum limits for the total number of athletes a team can have on its roster
quote:
The team will look drastically different and that’s okay take advantage of the new limit rule.
I would argue that the new roster limits make high school recruiting even more important.
You aren’t going to fill 105 roster spots with transfers. As misey pointed out, most of those guys are transferring because they know there’s a better opportunity out there. But you only have 22 starters, and you only have so much money to go around.
Ideally you’re filling a lot of those extra 20 scholarships with developmental prospects who are low-risk, high-reward. Guys you can get without a ton of financial commitment, and who aren’t going to cause too much heartache if they don’t pan out and transfer after a year or two. The best place to find those kinds of prospects is, IMO, high school recruiting.
The transfer portal in CFB is akin to free agency in the NFL, and HS recruiting is akin to the NFL draft. Theoretically HS recruiting should be more important in CFB than the NFL draft for a number of reasons:
1) Rosters are twice as large
2) Hit rates are lower
3) Potential upside relative to rating (e.g. HS ranking or draft position) is higher
The combined effect is that you should want as many rolls of the dice as possible within reason, and that it should be significantly cheaper to stack developmental prospects than known commodities from the portal.
That doesn’t mean Lane’s doing anything wrong. He has to play the hand he was dealt. There’s also reason to be optimistic about his ability to find hidden gems in the portal based on recent history. But I don’t think the transfer portal makes HS recruiting as obsolete as so many people seem to believe.
Page 1 of 1
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News