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Complete Idiot's Guide to How the H1B Scam Works

Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:37 am
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25925 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:37 am
1. Flood the Zone with Fake Petitions

H1Bs are handed out in a lottery system. Fake shell companies and H1B Body Shops flood the lottery system with fake petitions. To be able to apply for a petition, you have to have a candidate you are willing to sponsor. So they recruit a bunch of Indians from India and fake their resumes, credentials, and education to make it seem like they are these super qualified super geniuses. The more fake candidates they can petition, the higher % chances these shells and body shops win an H1B approval in the lottery.

Think of it like buying a bunch of raffle tickets.

2. Sell the Fake

Now these shell companies and H1B Body Shops have a bunch of Indians who are now H1B visa holders. But, it is illegal to "keep them on the bench". They need jobs.

But, these new H1B holders are not qualified since their resumes and credentials are 100% bullshite. How do they get them jobs? There are many avenues.

Proxy interviews are a big one. They will attempt to get these candidates through having someone else do the interview for them, or coach the H1B through an interview.

Green Card Managers on the other side is a pathway. More on this later.

If all else fails, they will send the H1B to a boot camp style crash course to where they learn just enough of something like Java to be able to do the bare minimum to fool an interviewer.

3. Wage Arbitrage to Enrich the Shells and Body Shops

Once successfully hired by a company, these H1Bs are technically not employees of the company. They are still employees of the shell company or H1B body shop. These shells/body shops will pay the H1B usually the legal minimum, something like $25 an hour. BUT, they will bill the company on a C2C contract for, lets say, $125 an hour. The shell company/body shop pockets the $100 difference.

Remember the green card manager I discussed in point 2? They are usually in on this scam. They will hire these fradulent candidates from the shells/body shops, and in return get kicked back a percentage of the wage arbitrage. There was a Wal Mart VP making $30k a day in kickbacks.

This is how companies end up getting flooded with Indians and become majority Indian. The kickback relationship between the shells/body shops and the Indians inside the companies doing C2C contract business with them. And why Americans get laid off. They need to drive out Americans to make room for more Indian H1Bs to get more kickbacks.

4. Protect the Scam

At some point it will become clear that the H1B workers on the C2C contracts are incompetent and incapable of doing the job they are there for. But, if the H1B C2C worker loses their job or does not have their contract renewed, the wage arbitrage and kickback cashflow ends.

This is where the green card managers come into play again. They pull out all the stops to protect these H1B C2C workers from accountability and oversight. They will make excuses, give them good performance reviews even though they suck, and even promote them (promotion = higher bill rate = more wage arbitrage money).

This is how these incompetent workers seem to rise through the ranks even though they suck at their jobs.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66026 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:45 am to
Wow. So these companies are bringing in thousands of unqualified idiots and it's all dysfunctional because certain people financially benefit. I wonder what the Indian people who got here as top 1% a couple of decades ago and their kids think of all of this.

geauxjuice said this in another thread:

quote:

by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas

they've been circumventing this by posting the jobs in invisible text online/ on very obscure job boards/publications. a fed up tech worker built an app that scraped all of these job postings and aggregated them to where US citizens could see them and apply and all the indians lost their minds
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119316 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:48 am to


Wait for some boomer welder to lecture you on elbow grease and having hustle
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25925 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Wait for some boomer welder to lecture you on elbow grease and having hustle



I didn't even touch on the fact that the H1B worker only works "hard" because they have no choice. They are basically property of the green card manager and the shell/body shop.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25925 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Wow. So these companies are bringing in thousands of unqualified idiots and it's all dysfunctional because certain people financially benefit. I wonder what the Indian people who got here as top 1% a couple of decades ago and their kids think of all of this.



It's a giant scam. Over time I believe H1B has become less about cheap labor and more about what I outlined in my post - a scheme to enrich body shops, shell companies and green card managers/execs. Especially in places like Dallas where Indians have taken over almost every tech and tech adjacent department in companies in the area.

How do you think Tata can afford sponsor the world major marathons like Boston and NYC?

HR doesn't care because it allows them to make self serving LinkedIn posts about how diverse their companies are.

Politicians don't care because they are bought off. No doubt Greg Abbott receives a lot of $$$ from these consultancies.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42740 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:57 am to
When I see nugget and H1B I upvote
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
9058 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:02 am to
Standby for factcheck results from bama mountain
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32364 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Standby for factcheck results from bama mountain


and BarnHater
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10156 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:44 pm to
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2. Sell the Fake
3. Wage Arbitrage to Enrich the Shells and Body Shops



I can confirm these 2. After graduation I unknowingly applied to one of these h1b shops. The Indian told me I would receive 6 months of training and then they would put 5 years on my resume. I would be contracted out but was told that I would not be paid when not on a contract and that I couldn't leave before a year without paying back $10k in "training," even if I wasn't on a job and getting paid.

Since I'm American, the work requirement the OP mentioned didn't apply. I imagine they require h1bs to pay back the training as well, which basically guarantees a wage slave for at least a year, maybe more for actual h1bs.

I could tell this was a sketchy place just from a short phone interview.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
99686 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:22 pm to
Great work as always, mate

Are there any folks on YouTube or X that I should follow on this subject?
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25925 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Are there any folks on YouTube or X that I should follow on this subject?


Neon White Cat

US Tech Workers

Andrew Branca Show

Aesthetica

Matt Forney

Chief Engineer
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25925 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

The Indian told me I would receive 6 months of training and then they would put 5 years on my resume.


That's a big way Indians lie on their resumes

They count their years in school as professional experience and equate training with years of service. If they do a 4 month boot camp they will claim its the equivalent of 5 years work experience
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23042 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:00 pm to
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This is how these incompetent workers seem to rise through the ranks even though they suck at their jobs.


Doing the jobs Americans can’t do…



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